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August 2018

Hani Tahir has written a new document (available in english), as he exposes the internal workings of Ahmadiyya


Intro
Our beloved brother and Ex-Ahmadi Hani Tahir has recently released an english document via Google Docs, however, it doesn[‘t seem that Hani Tahir did this translation, it is signed off at the bottom by Nazir Ahmad Kazak, halifax-canada, 22/08/2018. Continue reading “Hani Tahir has written a new document (available in english), as he exposes the internal workings of Ahmadiyya”

Mahmud Ahmad went for Hajj in 1912

Intro
We are just reproducing the data on Mahmud Ahmad’s Hajj in 1912. This falls under the history of Ahmadiyya in Saudi Arabia. In 1919, the 2nd Khalifa began making statements about setting up missionaries in Bukhara (Bokhara), Iran, Afghanistan and other Arab countries (See the 2nd Khalifa’s address on 3-17-1919, page 104)(see Ahmadiyya British-Jewish connections, page 87). Some prophecies of Mirza Basheer ud Din Mahmud Ahmad were published by the 1st Khalifa in the Al-Badr of Jan-9th-1912 (See ROR of Dec-1919). Maulvi Sher Ali wrote the essay. The ROR of Jan-1913 has a letter from Mahmud Ahmad from Arabia, in this letter, he alleges that Islam is about to be destroyed.

Mahmud Ahmad tells us that in 1912, Mir Nasir Nawab met Mahmud Ahmad in Mecca as they both performed Hajj(See Truth about the Split, page 157). Mahmud Ahmad claims that Mir Nasir Nawab was told by the Khalifa (noorudin) that it was OK to read prayers behind non-Ahmadi Imams whilst in Mecca, and all the Ahmadis did so. However, Mahmud Ahmad only did it since it was ordered…he wasn’t sincere…hence, he re-did all of those fake prayers(See Mahmud Ahmad, truth about the split, page 157-160).

In Nov-2025, on an episode of this Week with Hujoor (4:38 time stamp)(see on TikTok too, Mirza Masroor Ahmad was specifically asked about Ahmadi’s hiding their identity whilst working in government/military settings within Pakistan (See on TikTok and Twitter). Mirza Masroor Ahmad says that Ahmadi’s should lie and tell people that they will read on their own in an avoiding way. However, if you get trapped, then go ahead and pray behind them, but keep reciting istighfar, however, this doesn’t count and do the prayers again. Mirza Masroor Ahmad referred to the Hajj of Mirza Basheer uddin Mahmud Ahmad in 1912 (the future 2nd Qadiani-ahmadi Khalifa) and how he did exactly as such.
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The Al-Badr of July 4th, 1912, full english translation and analysis

Intro
Dear readers, we found lots of data on the Khilafat of Noorudin and many issues that popped up in the summer of 1912. In the below, we have given the Badr of July 4th, 1912 and a full translation. We have archived lots of other references from the Al-badr also, see here. We have also posted a reference from July 11th, 1912.
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But if Jesus is in heaven, he must be eating and getting old—a silly Ahmadi argument

Intro
Most Ahmadiyya arguments are silly and misleading. We have exposed many.  In today’s edition, we have decided to write about a famous ahmadi argument which claims that Esa (as) aka Jesus (as) can’t be in heaven, because he needs to eat and he would be 2000 years old by now.
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Responding to ahmadi.answers.com in terms of MGA leading Salat, which he never did


Intro

I am writing this entry as I refute the silly counter argument by the unofficial website ahmadianswers.com. Razi, who is the only author of the website seems to have seen my argument many months ago and then wrote a response. However, in his response, he contradicts himself many times, practices academic dishonesty and refuses to comment on the the most credible witness and report. He then quotes 3 references from Seeratul Mahdi and then doesn’t comment on them at all, nor does he highlight any text from these references. In the below, I will give the timeline of arguments on this topic, as well as the Ahmadi spin doctors and their methodology.

1903 era
By 1903, it was obvious that MGA was not leading any prayers at Qadian or anywhere else.  In fact, look at these references:

Malfuzat from 1903
It should be noted, this volume of Malfuzat was Published in Rabwah, 1961, in Urdu, covering the period from November 1901 to October 14, 1902 (see page xl).

Malfoozat 21-oct-1903 . Vol. 3 by Mirza Ghulam Ahamd Qadyani (also reported in Al-badar ) says

“Regarding leading in prayers , one guy question that why hazrat do not lead the prayers ? Answered that it is written in hadees that Maseeh that has to come will pray behind others “

The scans

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Khwaja Kamal-Ud-Din Prevents MGA From Being Jailed (1904)

Intro
In 1904, MGA had lost his court case vs. Karam ud Din. He was set to be thrown in jail and thus humiliated. However, he was granted bail and Khwaja Kamaluddin had the money in his pocket and paid it immediately.

The story
There is yet another story that surrounds the life of Khwaja Kamaluddin sahib in connection with MGA that has seemed to be forgotten by all ahmadis (Q and L). I don’t have the time to write a perfect article on this event, which has blown me away. I feel that KK sahib loved MGA with all his heart and he proved it in 1904, the story will impress any reader, I am sure of that!

In 1904, MGA was stuck in a court case which involved Maulvi Karam Din. The story of the court case is quite famous. From my knowledge MGA only had two lawyers that served as his counsel, they were Muhammad Ali and Khwaja Kamaluddin.

The judge was an Arya Hindu, he wanted MGA to suffer one way or the other. This case dragged on with adjournment after adjournment, then, the case was transferred to another Arya Hindu judge who really disliked MGA. This judge would not allow MGA the use of a chair or even a drink of water, MGA was almost 70 years old, it was very hard for him to stand, let alone not have a drink of water. This Hindu judge had it out for MGA, he was bent on giving MGA some type of jail-time. These were the conditions that KK sahib and M. ali were given. It was very important for them to be steadfast and cognizant of the environment.

This Hindu judge had finally announced that he would give his judgement on a certain day, then he strategically changed it to a Saturday. He planned to give MGA a hefty fine which MGA would not be able to pay, MGA would be forced to spend the weekend in jail. Somehow, KK and M. ali discovered the plan of the hindu judge, I am not sure how they figured this out, maybe good lawyers are able to anticipate things of this nature?

On Saturday afternoon just before the court was to close the judge called MGA forward and gave the police orders not to allow anyone in the court room. But MGA’s lawyer (I’m not sure whether this was M. ali or KK) brushed past the police officer claiming that it was illegal for MGA to stand in front of the judge without counsel.

The lawyer (KK or m. ali) appeared just in the nick of time, the judge had ordered HMGA to pay a fine of 500 rupees, immediately the lawyer presented the money, thus saving HMGA from spending the weekend in jail.

[Note inserted by Zahid Aziz: The fine was 500 rupees for Hazrat Mirza sahib and 200 rupees for his co-defendant Hakim Fazl Din. By coincidence, before Khwaja Kamaluddin entered the court room, a former client who owed him 700 rupees handed him this money, which Khwaja sahib stuffed into his pocket in a hurry without thinking.]

I read this story in Ian Adamson’s book, “Ahmad the Guided One”. Ian Adamson did not mention the name of the lawyer who saved HMGA. There is not any other book that gives this story. I am not even sure where Ian got his data from, Ian doesn’t give any references whatsoever.

[Note inserted by Zahid Aziz: It is highly likely to be in some Urdu book of the Qadiani Jamaat. Please see my link above which shows the relevant pages about this event from Mujaddid-i Azam by Dr Basharat Ahmad.]

All praise belongs to Allah, I understand that, I surely do. Allah allowed KK to serve in this capacity. It was Allah’s will! I hope the reader doesnt get the impression that I am boasting about the accomplishments of a simple man.

The link is provided below: see pg. 306

www.alislam.org/library/books/guidedone/index.htm?page=306#top

Also see—At this link I have given the relevant pages from Mujaddid-i Azam by Dr Basharat Ahmad (v. 2, pages 975-980)

Links and Related Essay’s
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/03/04/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-lost-his-court-case-vs-karam-uddin-1904-but-won-on-appeal/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/09/12/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-vs-maulvi-karam-din-court-case-1903-1905-references-from-the-2009-edition-of-tadhkirah-and-some-other-sources/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/04/25/nooruddins-comment-on-khwaja-kamaluddin-in-1913-in-lahore/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/08/17/khwaja-kamal-ud-din-prevents-hazrat-mirza-sahib-from-being-jailed-1904/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/08/17/when-khwaja-kamaluddin-arrived-in-england-1912/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/03/04/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-lost-his-court-case-vs-karam-uddin-1904-but-won-on-appeal/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/09/12/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-vs-maulvi-karam-din-court-case-1903-1905-references-from-the-2009-edition-of-tadhkirah-and-some-other-sources/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/01/20/my-beliefs-about-non-ahmadi-muslims-dated-18-august-1911-by-khwaja-kamal-uddin/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/10/20/tashhiz-al-azhan-was-a-magazine-founded-by-mahmud-ahmad-in-1906/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/01/20/a-muslim-is-one-who-accepts-all-those-appointed-by-god-by-mirza-bashir-uddin-mahmud-ahmad-april-1911/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/10/16/the-causes-of-internal-dissensions-in-the-ahmadiyya-movement-by-kwaja-kamaluddin-1914/

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Muhammad Ali, the eventual Lahori-Ahmadi was always against Takfir, whereas the family of MGA was not (1914)

Intro
Ahmadi’s are trained to misrepresent the truth, plus they are brainwashed. I have been engaging Ahmadi’s for 10+ years and they all play dumb when it comes to Ahmadiyya Takfir. We have always argued that MGA and his family did open Takfir from 1906 to 1923, then they began to do silent Takfir, as they invented the term “true-islam” and began to outwardly call Muslims as kafirs only in the literal sense, however, hiding their true beliefs, which are that Muslims and the Lahori-Ahmadi’s are Kafirs. Nonetheless, we have found a quote from Muhammad Ali, which is quoted in the Pagham e Sulh of March 1914. This quote is from March 19, 1914, the Khalifa had died less then a week prior.
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When Khwaja Kamaluddin arrived in England (1912)

Intro
Khwaja Kamaluddin is the famous Lahori-Ahmadi who arrived in England in 1912 and began converting people in the UK to Islam, as well as leading prayers at the famous Woking Mosque.  This was an Ahmadi mosque until the late 1960’s, when Bashir Misri became imam, and then signed it over to the Sunni Community in the London area. The lahori-Ahmadi’s lost the Woking Mosque and were never able to acquire another mosque in the UK.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________24th September 1912

It was the day when Khwaja Kamal-ud-Din arrived in England for the first time. During this first visit, which lasted till November of 1914, he established “The Islamic Review” monthly journal and the Woking Muslim Mission in 1913.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________Data from the Lahori blog editor Zahid Aziz

As the website creator and maintainer of the website www.wokingmuslim.org I felt it my duty to mark the 100th anniversary of Khwaja Kamal-ud-Din’s arrival. I have compiled an 8-page commemorative leaflet, with a 4-page insert of photographs that can go inside the leaflet, for this occasion. I hope it is interesting and informative.

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Zahid Aziz’s comments on Bashir Ahmad Misri

(1) An interview on this very subject which a Harvard University researcher conducted with me face to face in 2007. See page 7 of the May 2007 issue of “The Light”, U.K. edition at this link.

(2) An article I wrote at the same time in refutation of B.A. Misri’s account is in the April 2007 issue from pages 4 to 7, at this link.

light-apr07

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Links and Related Essay’s

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/08/17/when-khwaja-kamaluddin-arrived-in-england-1912/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/08/17/khwaja-kamal-ud-din-prevents-hazrat-mirza-sahib-from-being-jailed-1904/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/08/17/when-khwaja-kamaluddin-arrived-in-england-1912/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/03/04/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-lost-his-court-case-vs-karam-uddin-1904-but-won-on-appeal/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/09/12/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-vs-maulvi-karam-din-court-case-1903-1905-references-from-the-2009-edition-of-tadhkirah-and-some-other-sources/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/01/20/my-beliefs-about-non-ahmadi-muslims-dated-18-august-1911-by-khwaja-kamal-uddin/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/10/20/tashhiz-al-azhan-was-a-magazine-founded-by-mahmud-ahmad-in-1906/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/01/20/a-muslim-is-one-who-accepts-all-those-appointed-by-god-by-mirza-bashir-uddin-mahmud-ahmad-april-1911/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/10/16/the-causes-of-internal-dissensions-in-the-ahmadiyya-movement-by-kwaja-kamaluddin-1914/

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The old Cult Girl confessions blog—Expontential Growth in Ahmadis? An Ex-Ahmadi shows otherwise!

Intro
About 7-8 years ago, there was an interesting blog that popped up out of nowhere in this Ahmadiyya Awareness work. It was ran by a girl who was trapped in Ahmadiyya. She was from the UK and published lots of inside details about Ahmadiyya operations. This specific entry is about the Ahmadiyya fake numbers game, which we have written about extensively here.
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