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We have new information that proves that uptil the age of 53-58, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was not proficient in the Arabic language, remember, MGA claimed to be the Messiah and Mahdi by 1893. The quote comes from Seeratul Mahdi, which was published in late 1923. In this quote, Ghulam Nabi Seth relates a story to Mirza Bashir Ahmad whish was archived in Seeratul Mahdi and proves that MGA was never proficient in Arabic before his first arabic booklet (At-Tabligh) in 1893, which was Part-2 of “A’ina-e-Kamalat-e-Islam”, (The Mirror of the Excellences of Islam). Also written as Mian Ghulam Nabi Sahib Sethi, in 1898, he told his disciple Seth Ghulam Nabi that it is OK to use money received from interest towards religion. In this quote, MGA was supposed to write his essay in Urdu and Noorudin and Maulvi Abdul Karim were supposed to translate it into Arabic. It should be noted that Noorudin had just moved to Qadian and was living in MGA’s house. However, Mian Ghulam Nabi Sahib Sethi claims that MGA came out with the Arabic paper and Noorudin and Abdul Karim didn’t need to translate it. However, this is a farce, this event happened in 1893, Ghulam Nabi Seth was relating it 30 years later in 1923 and seems to have purposely lied. Further, the second Khalifa wrote in 1921 that MGA learned 40,000 roots in minute.
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This jalsa was mentioned in the March-April-May-1922 edition of the ROR. The Ahmadiyya Movement claims that 7000 people attended, which is a lie. This Jalsa was reported in the Moslem Sunrise of April-1922 (See page 88), 8000 people allegedly attended.
A speech of the Khalifa is published in the June-1927 edition of ROR, the speech seems to be on evolution. The Khalifa disagrees that humans came from monkeys, however, he does say that humans were different forms before we reached perfection (which is Kufr), later on (1947), the Khalifa would say that humans were jinn until we turned into humans. He said the same about Iblis aka Shaytaan. See also the ROR of Oct-1924.
As we all know, MGA didn’t know Arabic properly enough to write academically in Arabic, nor could MGA pronounce easy Arabic letters like Duad, Ain, Ghain and Qaaf, just to name a few. After 1897, MGA began to claim that he learned 40,000 roots of Arabic in one night. At the Jalsa of 1921, the Khalifa seems to have claimed that MGA did in fact learn arabic in one minute, which is ridiculous.
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| 60. He hated me since 1992 and my other brother. | ||
| Unchanged: 61. Keekee quotes 89:15-16. However, he doesn’t quote MGA. What money did MGA ever give? When was this revealed? Keekee is aggressively accusing ex-Ahmadi’s of refusing to pay chanda. What about the man who steals from his family? This ayat has nothing to do with Chanda. Keekee robbed both of his brothers. This doesnt just apply to the orphan. When my dad died, he wants all of that too. Refinancing? Bankruptcies? Is this how? He says Pakistani’s behave like this normally…however, Keekee tries to blame Pakistani’s and not Ahmadi’s. That punishment is not written in the quran..the quran says, when the day of judgement will approach. | ||
| Unchanged: 62. keekee then fumbles and can’t answer as to why Bashishit Maqbara exists in the first place. | ||
| Unchanged: 63. He goes back to his debate tactics. He can’t be honest, that’s the issue. | ||
| Unchanged: 64. He doesn’t like when we give examples. When we give parallels. | ||
| Unchanged: 65. Keekee hated me since I was 11-12. | ||
| Unchanged: 66. Jamaat Ahmadiyya does force people to pay chanda. They embarass people, and keep asking and keep asking. | ||
| Unchanged: 67. They hated me, since I didn’t pay. | ||
| Added: 68. excessive begging for chanda. | ||
| Added: 69. He doesnt even want to hear us…he called it a lecture. Hilarious!!! | ||
| Added: 70. In America…we dont burn down the houses of those who dont pray…in fact, we dont even ask. Keekee didn’t read the whole hadith. He is being arrogant again. | ||
| Added: 71. What masjid did MGA go to for daily prayers from 1840–1876? | ||
| Added: 72. Keekee says its his program, he can go whatever he wants. | ||
| Added: 73. Abu Bakr only gave during a maj |
74. Keekee says he doesnt care where the Ahmadiyya INC uses his money.
75. MGA refused to show accounts.
76. He says that Zia and Bhutto tried to figure out where Ahmadiyya chanda was coming from or something like that. Thats a lie.
77. Ahmadi’s only clean streets to get governmental favor. Not from the bottom of their hearts, like the Catholic Church too.
78. Jamaat Ahmadiyya doesnt audit the money after it leaves the UK and goes to 3rd world countries. Show us.
79. But my uncle owned a liqour store…many Ahmadi’s did. MGA even accepted money prostitiuyes. And Khurram pays lots of interest in america…not just a few things, he lives on a credit card.
80. Shafiq was a bartender in SF. He never went to Juma. Most Ahmadi’s dont go to Juma.
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Keekee is running wild. Here are some questions.
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In 1982, a few months after Mirza Tahir Ahmad became Khalifa, he begged Ahmadi’s to pay Chanda under the names of their deceased family members (see Introduction to Financial Sacrifice”, pages 112-113).

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The first 4-Khalifa’s of the Ahmadiyya Movement never really pushed Wasiyyat upon Ahmadi’s. The 2nd Khalifa did give speech at the 1942 Jalsa Salana wherein he was scared of a Japanese invasion and was planning for it. His speech was converted into a purposely mistranslated book, “Nizam e Nau”. Furthermore, Ahmadiyya sources were claiming 200 million Ahmadis in this era. The Khalifa reported that only 38,000 Ahmadi’s in total had signed up for this program. 38,000/200,000,000= that’s not even one percent. MGA had written that anyone who doesn’t sign up for Wasiyyat was a hypocrite (munafiq)(see page 41, online english edition of 2005). Thus, per MGA the majority of Ahmadi’s are hypocritical people.
It was the 5th Khalifa who began to force #ahmadis to join the Wasiyya program. He even had a new english edition of “The Will” (Wasiyyat) 2005 published so that #ahmadis in the west could sign up.
By 2019, in the USA, Mirza Maghfoor Ahmad was complaining that not even 50% of Jamaat-USA had signed up Wasiyyat, it was at 29% and dropping fast.
We suspect foul play with the girls at this school. More to come in the future.
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In 1901, (Via Malfuzat-3, online English edition, page 233, Al-Hakam, vol. 5, no. 28, dated 31 July 1901, pp. 3-4), MGA alleged that he was referred to in 66:12 (66:13 in the Kadiani Koran), i.e., “””We breathed into *him (feehee) of Our Spirit.”””–. MGA alleged that even Zamakhshari translated this verse the same way, however, this is unverified. Ibn Kathir translated the relevant words as “breathed into it”, not “breathed into him”. Even Suyuti translated the phrase as “breathed into it”. These are both Mujadids that Ahmadi’s allege to accept!
In 1902, via “Noah’s Ark” (See pages 78-79) MGA claimed to be mentioned in the verse 66:12. MGA also connects the verse 66:12 with the second coming of Eisa (as).
In 1906-1907, MGA claimed that 66:12 (66:13 in the Kadiani Koran) of the Quran was revealed about himself (See Haqiqatul Wahi (1907)(page 424).
In 1908, After MGA died, in Barahin-i-Ahmadiyya, Vol. 5, (Pages 136-137 and Pages 484-485) MGA claimed that the soul of Eisa (as) was breathed into himself (while MGA was Maryam [as]) via 66:12 (66:13 in the Kadiani Koran). This is how MGA explains how he became Esa (as)(nauzobillah).
In 1909, MGA repeats the same argument, Nuzul ul Masih. MGA (and his team) was backdating this argument to instances wherein he was called Maryam (as) and/or Eisa (as) in the Barahin series (v1-4, 1880-1884 era).
In 1917, in Muhammad Ali’s commentary of the Quran. On 66:12, Maulvi Muhammad Ali translated the key words as “we breathed into him”, which is exactly what MGA argued in 1907 (See Haqiqatul Wahi (1907)(page 424) and 1908 (See Barahin-i-Ahmadiyya, Vol. 5, Pages 136-137 and Pages 484-485). Ahmadi’s have written that the Arabic word “feehee” means him, whereas the wide consensus of Muslim scholars differ. See also 15:29, 32:9 and 38:72, in these verses Allah also says “fanafakhna feehee min roohina” (or a variation of it), in terms of Adam (as) and how Allah blew the ruh into Adam (as). The phrase “Khalideena-fee-ha” appears in the Quran 41 times, 11 times for Hell and 30 times for Heaven, this is just an example of the usage. The word(s) “feeha” appears 247 time(s) in 215 verse(s) in Quran. The word(s) “feehi” appears 167 time(s) in 157 verse(s) in Quran.
In 1926, The 2nd Qadiani Ahmad Khalifa translated the relevant words in 66:12 as “”so we breathed into her of our Spirit”” (See Invitation to Ahmadiyyat, page 50).
In 1955, via Maulvi Sher Ali’s translation of the Quran (2021 edition and 1955 edition), he translated “fanafakhna feehee min roohina” as “we breathed into him the spirit”.
In the 1950‘s and 60’s, the 2nd Qadiani-Ahmadi Khalifa’s “Tafseer-e-Kabeer” and “Tafseer-e-Sagheer”, he seems to have totally avoided Chapter 66.
In 1988, via Malik Ghulam Farid’s Official 5-volume commentary of the Quran (Short Commentary), he also translated the key words as “we breathed into *him”, which is exactly what MGA argued in 1907 (See Haqiqatul Wahi (1907)(page 424) and 1908. Ahmadi’s have written that the Arabic word “feehee” means him, whereas the consensus of Muslim scholars differ. However, in the 5-volume commentary itself, he translated it as “we breathed therein”.
Additionally, MGA claimed to have gotten pregnant by Allah in the 1884 era (see also 19:25 of the Quran). MGA said many disrespectful things about Maryam (ra), see them here. In 1902, MGA quoted 21:91 (21:92 in the Qadiani Quran) of the Quran and claimed that Maryam was called a married woman (Ahsanat). MGA then quoted 4:24, specifically the phrase “wa mushanatoo” and gave it as a parallel.
In 2021, Brother Zay discussed this entire issue with Ahmadi’s on discord (52:56) time stamp.
In roughly 2022, Razi alleged that when MGA was claiming to have become Maryam and gotten pregnant he was stealing poetry from the famous Rumi (See Maulana Rume his book Masnavi, Volume two) wherein he claimed to have gotten pregnant like Maryam (as)(See Miftah al Ulum vol. 1, p. 11). However, we have not found these scans as of yet.
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