Thanks to Hani Tahir, we have obtained some interesting references which link MGA to the concept of abrogation. At a minimum…MGA would forget his own revelations…and he would say that he would get “new ones” in their place. This is from later on in MGA’s career, after 1901. Further, Noorudin rejected abrogation as early as 1877-ish, as he totally agreed with everything that Sir Syed wrote (see Noorudin, by Zaf Khan).
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Mahmud Ahmad and a certain Italian dancer-girl had an interesting engagement in the 1930’s. I have covered it in my previous essays on the topic, feel free to read those again. Mahmud Ahmad was a playboy, just like his father and just like the Aga Khan. In this particular story, Mahmud Ahmad bought out an Italian dancer (miss Rufo) and had her come to Qadian, she worked in Lahore at a famous sex-type hotel , however, then the story gets sketchy. Obviously, Mahmud Ahmad never reported any of this…however, the critics of Ahmadiyya were always watching, Mahmud ahmad did eventually talk about Miss Rufo, the dancer from the Cecil Hotel, it was in a famous friday sermon. And the critics were watching…. Maulana Zafar Ali Khan was one such critic. He was the editor of the Zamindar, and he wrote extensively vs. Ahmadiyya. However, in the 1920’s, much like lots of modernists in India, he viewed Ahmadiyya as a good thing. Allama Iqbal held the same view, but when the true intentions of Mahmud Ahmad were discovered in the mid-1930’s…everyone separated from them. I had to do with the All india Kashmir Committee and many other things. Nonetheless, enjoy this research find:
A new research find
We have just recently found a poem that was written by Maulana Zafar Ali Khan. It is in the below…
A rough translation of the first poem
O U THE LAND OF ITALY O U THE SPRING OF GARDEN.
BECAUSE OF U, THE CITY OF LAHORE HAS BECOME A GARDEN
UR NAUGHTY STYLE AND BEAUTY IS LIKE A MESSENGER
GOD OF LOVE YOUR ATTRACTIVE WALK.
MANY HEARTS HAVE MINGLED IN UR BLACK HAIRS.
HUNDRED OF ODORS ASSOCIATED TO EACH THREAD OF UR HAIRS.
THE MAGIC OF YOUR EYES IS CREATOR OF SERENITY.
THE PERFUME OF UR DRESS MAKES MAD.
Ur SANDAL LIKE LEGS ARE LIKE MEASURING GLASS.
AND UR MARBLE LIKE BODY IS THE TOKEN OF JOY.
UR UNDRESS BEAUTY IS THE DECORATION OF NIGHT BARS
BOTH SHAIKH AND BRAHMAN ARE CRAZY OF IT.
WHEN UR DRUNK EYES FELL UPON QADIYAN
IT VANISHES THE JOY OF ZILLI PROPHETHOOD.
I AM ALSO AN ADMIRER OF UR DRUNK EYES.
BECAUSE IT IS AN ANTI QADIYAN MAGIC.
The scan work
A rough translation of the second poem
WHERE HAS GONE THE UNDRESSED BEAUTY OF HOTEL CECIL
THE LOVERS OF THE CITY ASK FROM ZAMINDAR
WHERE HAS GONE THE UNDRESSED BEAUTY OF HOTEL CECIL.
WITH OUR SOUL SHE ALSO TOOK AWAY OUR IMAN
SHE TOOK AWAY EVERYTHING WITH HER.
SHE TOOK AWAY THE FEAR OF ALLAH.
AND SHE ALSO TOOK THE RESPECT OF ALLAH,S PROPHET S.A.W.
SHE WAS LINKS OF THE CHAIN OF THE MASTER
AND SHE TOOK AWAY THE THINGS TO SHOW THE DOOMSDAY.
SHE HAD COME FROM ROME AS A PRIDE.
DON,T KNOW WHICH PLACE OF PRIDE DID SHE GO
LISTENING TO ALL THIS HUE & CRY SAID THE ZAMINDAR.
ALL I KNOW IS THAT SHE WENT TO QADIAN
MGA and his sons, and MGA’s father, and MGA’s brother and all of his cousins were playboys. These people weren’t religious, they were lazy, they didn’t want to work, so they exploited people and indulged in women. Ironically, when they moved to Rabwah in 1948, Mahmud Ahmad and his team enforced purdah and turned into hard-core conservatives.
Scan from Al-FazL
Source: Friday Sermon of Mirza Basheer-ud-Din Mahmood Ahmad transcript in Al Fazl March 18 1934
In addition to explaining why he had brought the Italian Prostitute Miss Rufo to his House in Qadian, Mirza Basheer-ud-Din Mahmood Ahmad explains in the later part of the same of his speech on March 18 1934, why he was seen sexually violating several women near the river Beas.
Mirza Basheer-ud-Din Mahmood Ahmad explains that one day he took his multiple wives and daughters to a river in order to enjoy the fresh air there.
He also took a Rifle with him in order to practice shooting and also taught that it is important that also his women are skilled in the arts of Rifeling and Target Shooting. So he taught his wifes and daughters how to shoot. He explains that his teaching of his women and daughters, which obviously required close physical contact to his wives and daughters may have been misunderstood as sexual violation by others. In Urdu, the quotation is as follows: Basheer ud din Mahood taught his wives and daughters how to use gun. “Unka khauf door krne ke lye” . “aurton ke lye bandooq chalana bohat zaroori hai” Shiningstar bhai ye bandooq ke ander pen daal ke training karwai thi?
So again Mirza Basheer-ud-Din Mahmood Ahmad has a shameless excuse why he was reportedly seen violating women. One has to wonder what transpired when no one was around to witness such shameless behaviour.
Mirza Basheer-ud-Din Mahmood Ahmad did not explain why he did not take any of his male children or relatives to that Outing near the river to enjoy the fresh air or the Rifle Shooting Training he had offered to his wifes. Seems like he was not keen to show his Rifle to other men.
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Today, Ahmadis will run around doing Corporate Social Responsibility, they claim to love all religions and they pretend to work with all religions in harmony, however, MGA was different, much different. In fact, he hated all religions of the world. Here are some quotes:
•”The STUPID and ILLITERATE and EVIL (KAMEENA) NATURED certain Aryans of Qadian….” (Nuzool-e-Maseeh p.6)
•”For these people (Aryans) to lie is mother’s milk. They are Satans not humans…” (Nuzool-e-Maseeh p.11)
•”Thus O Aryans!…O Impious and stone-hearted Nation!…He is a first class wicked natured and impious natured ..” (Tatamma Haqeeqatul Wahi p.156)
•”Wicked-natured Lekhram. Alas! This seed of profanity and obscenity was brought by Dayanand in this country…. Lekhram Peshawari who was absolutely stupid and a boil (Aablaa).” (Cashma-e-Maarifat p.3)
•”Such kind of profanity and foul language and mischievousness is a special Aryans’ way.” (ibid. p.6)
•”Thieves and professional dishonest…” (Arya Dharam p.25)
•”Uttering such abusive words of meanness (SIFLA-PUN) from the mouth and then wrote something on our advertisement..” (ibid. p.25)
•”Maharaj with wicked soul said…. Wicked Pandit…” (ibid. p.31,34)
•”These KAMEENA-natured people were already eager to criticise and on top of that they got hold of some Mischievous and Stupid Christians and Satanic Inclinations instructed them they are all true, thus they also took their share of this Black face and Embarrassment, which is now evident on the faces of Stupid Christian Priests.” (Ibid. p.47)
•”Otherwise they are faithless and Professional dishonest.” (ibid. p.60)
•”O Stupid Aryas! Go and jump into some well and kill yourself.” (ibid. p.62)
•”Lekhram’s nature had a lot of element of Fabrications and lies..” (Istafta p.7)
•”This USELESS (NaaLaaiq) Hindu was the same person who boasted to be a Pundit and remembered Bawa Saheb with words like stupid and backward…. and how evil this nature is that for pious people bad words are blurted out immediately…. thus no good person considered him a good man.” (Sat Bachan p.6)
•”Like Dayanand they were not in the darkness of illiteracy and miserliness.” (ibid. p.7)
•”Actually this person (Dayanand) was absolutely Black-hearted and enemy of good people … this Truth-ignoring and ZAALIM Pundit….”(ibid. p.8)
•”Because of the instigations of this same STUPID (nadaan) Pandit, had the right… This DRY-BRAINED PUNDIT (khushk dimaagh) was absolutely UNFORTUNATE (bey-naseeb) and WRETCHED (bey-bahraa) …. he was EXTREMELY THICK SKULLED PERSON and for this reason he was also a FIRST RATE PROUD MAN.” (ibid. p.9)
•”But Dayanand did not desire to remove this PALEED CHOOLA (dirty dress) of BUKHL (meanness) and TA’ASUB (racism) from his body, thus he did not receive a clean dress and he remained luckless in receiving true inspiration and true teachings ….. and how can such an opportunity arise for a Pundit like him who is drowned in the TA’ASUB OF NAAHAQ (racism of falsehood) and FITREE GHABAAWAT (natural stupidity) …. and to prove the ignorance of Bawa saheb through this is NIHAYAT SIFLAAPUN (absolute meanness). … this ZOOD-RANJ (fast-offended) Pundit has shown such AHMAQAANA JOSH (idiotic vigour) at a small linguistic alteration.” (ibid. p.12)
•”He himself was engaged in such MOTEY KHAYAALAAT (Fat thoughts) and Mistakes that even the GANWAAR (Backwards) of villages would hardly exceed him.” (ibid. p.13)
•”It is the way of SHAREER (Mischievous) people that at the time of LAMPOONING someone they would begin with a word of praise, as if they are just-natured.” (ibid. 13)
•”But Dayanand remained blind even in those days when Vedas had been translated in England and Germany.” (ibid. 19)
•”O NALAAIQ (Ill-deserved) Aryans! (ibid. 36)
MGA already believed that Esa (as) was dead, he began believing this as early as the 1880–1884 era. He followed the writings of Sir Syed and the Aligarh Movement, Sir Syed’s Tafsir on the Quran was published in that era. Obviously, Sir Syed believed that Esa (as) was dead before he wrote this tafsir, as early as the mid-1870’s. Noorudin was a follower of Sir Syed….and a friend of MGA.
In 1890, MGA and his team wrote Izala Auham. In this book they began to write that Esa (as) was dead….however, MGA hadn’t came out with this position. A few months after this book came out…MGA claimed that his God had told him that Esa (as) was dead and that he (MGA) was the re-incarnation of Esa (as).
5:117 of the Quran
Per ALL the classic commentaries on the quran (see Tafsir Ibn Kathir), this ayah meant that Esa (as) would physically return to Earth…and then see “Christians” for the very first time and then convert them ALL to Islam (see 4:159 also). He would then be questioned like Muhammad (saw) and all other prophets (as) in terms of why their ummah had went astray…and Esa (as) would say, “….I was amongst them…but then you ‘took” me….”. This meant that Esa (as) was among the Jews until the event of the crucifixtion, and Allah “took” Esa (as) or captured Esa (as) and took him off the planet, towards Allah, however, allah never specified whether Esa (as) was alive or dead or sleeping.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________The insinuations of 5:117
Whether Esa (as) died (temporarily) at age 33 and was lifted to Allah, or whether he was in a state of sleep and then lifted to Allah is irrelevant. It just doesn’t matter. The fact is that Esa (as) didnt live on Earth past the event of crucifixtion, or a few days after.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________MGA on 5:117 from 1890–1896
In this era…MGA and his team were writing that Esa (as) had died and seemed to be buried in somewhere close to Israel.
“This is true that Maseeh went to his native place, and died there, but this is not true that the same body which was buried, became alive again….. verse 3 chapter I of Acts is a testimony about the natural death of Jesus that took place in Al-Khaleeli. After this death, Maseeh was visible to his students as KASHF (vision) for 40 days.” (Izala-e-Auham, Roohani Khazain vol.3 p.353-354)
MGA on 5;117 directly
“””I am very much aware that in Islam this word has been employed in a figurative sense to refer to the seizure of the soul in order to prove the everlasting nature of the soul. It is unfortunate that even though some ‘ulama (religious leaders) know that the real meaning of tawaffa is to die, they yet put forward another interpretation to the following verse – “but when You caused me to die (tawaffaitani)” – claiming that this death will take place after the second advent of the Prophet Jesus (as). What is amazing is that they evince not the slightest feeling of shame in proffering such a disgraceful interpretation. They do not bother to consider that before this statement of Prophet Jesus (as) – (“but when You caused me to die”) – the verse states: “When (idh) Allah will say (qala): O Jesus, son of Mary, didst thou say to men, Take me and my mother for two gods besides Allah? He will say: Glory be to Thee! it was not for me to say what I had no right to (say). If I had said it, Thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my mind, and I know not what is in Thy mind. Surely Thou art the great Knower of the unseen. I said to them naught save as Thou didst command me: Serve Allah, my Lord and your Lord;
and I was a witness of them so long as I was among them, but when Thou didst cause me to die Thou wast the Watcher over them. And Thou art Witness of all things” (5:116-117).
It is obvious that qala (he said) is the past tense of the verb and before this there is the particle idh (when) which further emphasises the fact that reference is made to the past. From
this, we can deduce that this matter obviously pertains to the time of a former descent and not to a future one. So, too, the reply of Prophet Jesus (as) – “but when You caused me to die” – is the past tense as well as several other matters which precede this one in the Holy Qur’an and are described in the same way and these also support the point as, for example…”
^^^^This is a translation from the Lahori-Ahmadis and their compilation book:
Death of Prophet Jesus (AS) — 30 Verses from the Holy Quran:
by Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian
English Translation from ‘Izala-e-Auham’ by Imam Kalamazad Mohammed
Some additional references
“This has to be admitted that Hazrat Eisa is also dead, and interestingly enough the grave of Hazrat Eisa is also in Syria and for further clarity, in the footnote, I include the testimony of My brother, My lover in Allah, Molvi Mohammad Al-Saeedi Trablisi. He is a resident of Tripoli, in the Country of Syria and in his area is the Grave of Hazrat Essa AS (Jesus). If you say that Grave is phoney, then you must provide the proof of this forgery, and prove that when this forgery took place. And in this event we will not be sure about the graves of any prophet and trust will be lost, and we will have to say that all those burial places are fake.” (Atmam E Hujat, Page: 18-19, Roohani Khazain vol.8 p.296-297, dated 1894)
“O Hazrat Maulana & My Imam. Assalamo alaikum wa rehmatullah wa barakaatohu. I pray that may Allah give you cure (I recieved this letter of Shaami Saheb during my illness) Whatever you have asked about the Grave of Eisa alaihe assalam and other events, thus I am writing to you in detail, and that is this: Hazrat Eisa alaih assalam was born in Bait-ul-Lehm and between Bait-ul-Lehm and Quds there is a distance of thirty miles and the Grave of Hazrat Eisa alaihe assalam is in the Country of Quds, and is present till now, and there is a Church built on it, and that church is the largest church of all churches, and inside it is the Grave of Hazrat Eisa and in the same church is the Grave of Maryam, the truthful. And both graves are separate.” (Atmam-ul-Hujjat, Roohani Khazain vol.8 p.299)
In 1897, MGA changed his position
MGA and his team seem to have read the ‘lies” of Nicholas Notovitch, who claimed that Esa (as) had travelled to Kashmir during his youth. They then found an obscure grave in Kashmir and labelled it as the grave of esa (as). However, MGA’s book on this topic wasn’t published til after MGA died in 1908.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________MGA and his team added 90 years to the life of Esa (as)
MGA’s team then found an obscure hadith from Kanzul-Ummul, twisted it, and then added 90 years to the life of Esa (as). However, this contradicts 5:117. Since Esa (as) was not on the planet, per Allah during the formulation of Christianity.
The first instance of MGA’s ghost writers indicating Kashmir as the final grave of Esa
It should be noted that in MGA’s book called ‘Raz-e-Haqiqat”, which was translated and published into english in 2016, see pages 30-31, they only quoted half of the relevant quote, and the reason was because the first few sentences assert that Yuz Asaf was the son of a King, not a fatherless man.
The exact quote
The relevant portion is page No. 86 lower side and here is the translation :-
“Hazrat Syed Nasiruddin Khanyari belongs to magnificent Sadat (from the linage of holy prophet pbuh), he was amongst those who wants to remain in hiding. In an event he made his appearance at the grave of blessed Mir sahib at Mohallah Khanyar. This grave is the place of epicentre of light (Noor). There is a grave stone lies near to it. It is famous among common men that this is the last resting place of a prophet who was deputed for this place in the ancient times. The place is known to be a prophet’s place. One of a history books describes a far flung story that one of the sons of a king came here to gain piety he remained busy in the prayers (ibadat & riazat) of “his God” day and night and was deputed as prophet for the peoples of the area. He came to Kashmir to call the people towards “his God” (dawah) and was buried here after death. In that book his name is mentioned as Yuz Asaf. Most of the pious people particularly the murshid of this author Mullah Inayatullah says he smells the traces of prophethood at this place, however definite knowledge rests with Allah”.
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I have written in many essays that Ahmadiyya leadership aka the Mirza family purposely got themselves declared as non-Muslim in 1974. As we all know, Ahmadis were basically declared as Muslim in 1954, since the govt. of Pakistan observed that there is no clear definition of a “Muslim” in the Quran or any hadith. All definitions from the hadith were found to be “confusing” and “unclear”. The truth is….every hadith report has a context, and that context is rarely ever discussed, most people, especially Ahmadis, they use hadith and “create-a-context”, and then present their queer views.
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MGA and his team of writers broke many Islamic rules. In fact, they were “anti-Islam”, they criticized Christianity, Hinduism and all world religions against the teachings of the Quran. For example, see 6: 108
And do not insult those they invoke other than Allah , lest they insult Allah in enmity without knowledge. Thus We have made pleasing to every community their deeds. Then to their Lord is their return, and He will inform them about what they used to do.
MGA and team of writers didn’t care
“””The Dajjal mentioned in the Ahadith is described by the
Holy Qur’an as the Satan, whom it quotes as saying:
‘He (Satan) pleaded in the presence of God to be granted respite until those who are dead of heart are revived. God said: You are given respite till that time.’ Thus the Dajjal who is mentioned in the Ahadith is none other than the Satan who will be slain in the latter days.
This is recorded in the book of Daniel as well as in some Ahadith. As Christianity is the perfect manifestation of Satan, Surah Al-Fatihah makes no mention of Dajjal, but prescribes supplication for refuge against the evil of the Christians. If the Dajjal had been some other mischiefmaker, the Holy Qur’an would not have enjoined us to seek refuge against the mischief of Dallin [those who have gone astray] but for security against the Dajjal. The verse mentioned above does not mean the day of resurrection, because Satan will remain alive only so long as men are alive. Satan does not operate on his own, but through his agents, who are the people who deify a human being. Being a group of people, they are called Dajjal as in Arabic Dajjal also connotes a group. If Dajjal is taken to mean someone other than the misguided preachers of Christianity, this would entail a contradiction, because the very Ahadith which indicate that the Dajjal will prevail over the earth in the latter days, also indicate that in those days the power of the church will overwhelm all religions. This contradiction can only be solved by affirming that the two are one and the same.””” [Haqiqat-ul-Wahi, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 22, p. 41]
This reference can also be found in Essense of Islam, vol. 3
See page 279-280
MGA and his team aggressively and viciously attacked Abdullah Athim, who was a Christian man who was kind enough to allow MGA to come into his house and have a debate. As we all know, MGA lost this debate and was humiliated, he then threw out a false prophecy that Athim would die in 15 months, however, Athim didn’t die. Athim eventually died a few years later and MGA claimed it as a victory.
Continue reading “When the Athim prophecy was about to expire….”
Ahmadis are working around the clock…they educate their children only so that they may grow older and pay chanda to Ahmadiyya, they volunteer so that the Mirza family gets free labor at their masjids, they learn western education only so that Ahmadiyya may benefit, they go to work, only so that Ahmadiyya may benefit. These people are all sick and twisted and in reality they worship the Mirza family, not any god.
In the video posted below, this Ahmadi mullah, Mubashir Ahmad Kahloon (Head of Dar Al-Ifta Rabwah, Pakistan) is giving a speech, this is an exerpt from Jalsa Salana Qadian 2015, 5th Speech of Day 1. He basically lies and tells Ahmadis some colossal lies. Muslims will not be asked any of the questions that he presents, its a total lie. However, he is following the orders of the Mirza family, and the standing order is to squeeze all the money out of Ahmadis and make them work for free and sell Ahmadiyya. Sell sell sell!!!!!
MGA did not have a face to face verbal debate with Abdullah Athim and his Church Missionary Society, he couldn’t, he stuttered and never held a debate with anyone. It was a written debate, they exchanged papers for 15 days and Noorudin and the rest of MGA’s team were on stand-by. MGA did finally speak, on the last day of the debate, he blurted out that Athim would die in 15 months (see Dard, Life of Ahmad, pages 390-420).
The Punjab Mission News reports as follows:
Taken from the Church Missionary Society booklets here: https://www.amazon.com/Proceedings-Church-Missionary-Society-Africa/dp/B00AS0SMSY
See page 169
“Great excitement prevailed, and many telegrams flew hither and thither over the Punjab on the night of September 5th, (1894) when the Mirza of Qadian’s prophecy against Mr. Abdullah Athim expired…..seeing that Mr. Athim is an old man, and was at the time in extremely feeble health, this was, to say the least, a very shrewd forecast, with two hot weathers carefully brought into the reckoning. However, we are thankful to say that Mr. Athim is now in better health than he has been for a long time, despite the excitement of the past few months, and the very decided efforts which appear to have been made in certain quarters to aid the prophecy to its fulfilment by measures which savour strongly of the Criminal Courts.
The Nur Afshan states that 3 attempts were made on Mr. Athim’s life during the spring at Amritsar, one at Ludhiana, and 4 at Ferozepore, where he spent the last couple months of the allotted period at his daughter’s house. Great rejoicings therefore took place at the safe completion of the 15 months, and Mr. Athim’s return to Amritsar on 9–6-1895 was quite a regal progress. There are a large number of Christians had gathered to welcome him, and to thank God for the non-fulfilment of the prophecy on the very spot in Dr. H.M. Clark’s verandah where it was made last year. A touching speech was made on this occasion by Mr. Athim himself. He quoted Moses’ warning in Duet. xiii. 1–3, against believing false prophets even though their sings come to pass, and then went on to say how, during these months of danger and suspense, two things had given him calm and comfort–the Holy Spirit’s support, and the Blood of Christ.
The joyous throng of Christians then passed through the main bazaars of Amritsar to show their hero alive in person, though even so, some sceptics declared that this was not the deputy sahib Abdullah Athim, but his deputy in the shape of a rubber doll, which bowed by the pressure of Dr. Clark’s foot! The main feeling, however, among the crowds seems to have been one of rejoicing with the Christians.”
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