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July 2023

Who is Mahmood Odeh?

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He is the father of the famous Hassan Odeh, who famously quit Ahmadiyya in 1989. He seems to have been born in the 1930’s at Kababir, Haifa, Israel. His father was the 2nd person from the Odeh family to join Qadianism. His father was Al-Haj Ahmad Bin Abdul Qadir Al-Odeh. He was living in Kababir, Haifa, Israel when the Qadiani-Ahmadi Maulvi seems to have met him and converted him to Qadianism in 1928, Abdul Qadir Bin Salih Al-Odeh was the first. He marries one of his sons to the daughter of Abdul Qadir Bin Salih Al-Odeh. He is thus born. Both of these people had moved to Kababir from Bethlehem.

All 3 of his sons (Ahmad, Salih and Hassan) quit Ahmadiyya in 1989–1991. He was the Ameer of all the Qadiani-Ahmadi’s in Israel and surrounding areas (Egypt, Syria and Palestine) in the 1980’s/early 90’s. After his sons quit, he goes missing, we can’t track him. Another cousin of theirs, Abu Muhammad apologized for boycotting them back in the early 90’s when he was a teenager.

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Who is Ahmad Odeh?

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He is the eldest brother of the famous Hassan Odeh, he quit Ahmadiyya in 1990, after his brother quit. He was the Ameer of the entire Sweden jamaat of Ahmadi’s in the 1980’s, when he quit Ahmadiyya, he was still the Ameer of the entire Sweden jamaat of Ahmadi’s. Unfortunately, his father, Mahmood Odeh didn’t ever quit Ahmadiyya. His other brother also quit Ahmadiyya (Salih Odeh, who was working as a teacher in an Ahmadiyya school in Kababir).

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Who is Salih Odeh?

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He is the elder brother of the famous Hassan Odeh, he quit Ahmadiyya in 1990 (Jan-9) after his brother pointed things out. Salih was a teacher at the Ahmadiyya school in Kababir, Haifa, Israel. His father, Mahmood Odeh stayed a Qadiani-Ahmadi until he died. His other brother, Ahmad Odeh also quit Ahmadiyya in 1990. In 1993, Salih Odeh visits the UK and stays with his brother (Hassan). His other brother, Ahmad Odeh quit Ahmadiyya 3 days later on Jan-12.

Hassan Bin Mahmood Odeh tells us that his maternal grandfather was the first ever person in his family to convert to Ahmadiyya, his name was Abdul Qadir Bin Salih Al-Odeh (in 1928). Hassan Bin Mahmood Odeh then tells is how his paternal grandfather was the second person in his family to convert to Ahmadiyya, his name was Al-Haj Ahmad Bin Abdul Qadir Al-Odeh. Thus, both of his male grandparents were converts to Ahmadiyya. His father is named Mahmood (just like the 2nd Khalifa), and he was the Ameer of Kababir for many years (most likely 1970’s). Hassan Bin Mahmood Odeh has 2 brothers, Ahmad and Salih (See page 12).

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Who is Hassan Bin Mahmood Odeh? A Qadiani-Ahmadi missionary from Kababir, and ex-Qadiani

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He was born in 1955, he is a second generation Ahmadi from Kababir. He was the first ever Qadiani-Ahmadi born in Kababir to become a missionary for the Ahmadiyya Movement. He became an ex-Ahmadi in 1989 and wrote about his experiences. Hassan Bin Mahmood Odeh tells us that his maternal grandfather was the first ever person in his family to convert to Ahmadiyya, his name was Abdul Qadir Bin Salih Al-Odeh (in 1928). Hassan Bin Mahmood Odeh then tells is how his paternal grandfather was the second person in his family to convert to Ahmadiyya, his name was Al-Haj Ahmad Bin Abdul Qadir Al-Odeh. Thus, both of his male grandparents were converts to Ahmadiyya. His father is named Mahmood (just like the 2nd Khalifa), and he was the Ameer of Kababir for many years (most likely 1970’s). Hassan Bin Mahmood Odeh has 2 brothers, Ahmad and Salih (See page 12).

In the 1970’s, he had moved to Sweden, and it seems that his brother Ahmad Odeh was also there as well as their father, it’s unclear if Salih was there. He met the 3rd Khalifa in 1976 and 1978 and became intimately close to the 3rd Khalifa and his notorious sons, Mirza Anas Ahmad, Mirza Farid Ahmad and Mirza Luqman Ahmad. In 1979, he decided to devote his life to Ahmadiyya and was sent to Qadian for Jamia training. He was a moosi (someone who pays 10% chanda and will give 33% of their assets to the jamaat when they die).

In his book, Hassan Odeh mentioned how he worked closely with the 4th Khalifa (1986–1989) at Tilford in the UK. He also worked closely with the 4th Khalifa’s inner circle (1986–1989) and noticed that they lacked qualities of goodness and virtue. At the same time, Hassan Odeh said that he observed that the 4th Khalifa was making mistakes with reading the Quran/hadith, “he didn’t have command of Arabic”, and that the member of the Mirza family lacked Taqwa and most had sold their soul to the Khalifa like rabbits. Hassan Odeh tells us that in 1989, as the second century of Ahmadiyya dawned, the 4th Khalifa gave a sermon on March 23rd, 1989 and announced that he had received a revelation and then read the revelation and then made a mistake and quickly changed the revelation (See page 76). This really shook Hassan Odeh. Hassan Odeh also mentions how Mirza Tahir Ahmad was always in search of New Ahmadi’s and specifically from the Arab world and was targeting young Arab men who were in the UK and seeking a work visa or educational visa (See page 78). Hassan Odeh explains how he came in contact with young arab men and they quickly accepted Ahmadiyya without asking many questions. Hassan Odeh claims that the conversions to Ahmadiyya were mutual, the arabs needed visa’s and Mirza Tahir Ahmad needed converts. Hassan says that after he left ahmadiyya, he confirmed that all of these young arab men had only converted to ahmadiyya for self-interest. He was also there for the Mubahila vs. Zia ul Haq and the famous prophecy of Mirza Tahir Ahmad about “Friday the 10th”. The Mubahila was also published in the Arabic magazine, “Al-Taqwa”. When Zia died, the 4th Khalifa was shocked and he thought that many people would join Ahmadiyya as a result of this, however, that didn’t happen. In fact, Zia had never accepted any Mubahila from Mirza Tahir Ahmad, nor did he ever know of it. However, many ulema from Pakistan had accepted it and has sent letters to the 4th Khalifa asking for a place to meet him and etc., however, Mirza Tahir Ahmad never even answered them. Thus, the Mubahila vs. Zia ul Haq and the propaganda that ensued also was a huge factor in Hassan Odeh leaving Qadianism. He also had issues with MGA’s attack on Muhammadi Begum and how the Ahmadiyya Movement was purposely mistranslating words as they lied about the facts of the case.

We have written extensively about Ahmadiyya in Kababir, Haifa, Israel. We wanted to add one more piece research information to our blog. We have found and posted a book by Hassan Bin Mahmood Odeh, who is an ex-Ahmadi from Kababir, Haifa, Israel. He is from the famous Odeh family. In 1986, under Mirza Tahir Ahmad, he worked as the “Director-General” of the Arabic section of the Ahmadiyya Movement. He had also lived in Qadian and had learned Urdu and thus was able to read directly from the books of MGA. Read about Hani Tahir and Ikrami Najami herein.

By 1990, Ahmad Odeh (Hassan Bin Mahmood Odeh’s brother) officially quit Ahmadiyya.

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The history of #Ahmadiyya in #Jordan

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In 2023, there don’t seem to be any Ahmadi’s in Jordan, maybe 1 or 2 working on contract. In 1989, when Hassan Bin Mahmood Odeh quit Ahmadiyya, a journalist named Abu Nab contacted him and told him that the President of the entire Jordan jamaat of Ahmadi’s (a man named Taha Kazak) had quit Ahmadiyya in court. This was confirmed by Qadiani-Arab’s on my recent stream (22:08 timestamp). This Taha Kazak character could be related to Mutaz Kazak, who is a professor in Jamia Ahmadiyya Canada, and his brother was Luay Kazak who passed away on December 10, 2020. You can see Mutaz Kazak recited the Quran herein.

In 1971, a Qadiani-Ahmadi, Commander Dr. Abdul Latif met His Majesty the King Hussain of Jordan in April 1971 while his son Air Commodore (R) Rashid A. Bhatti, a recipient of “TOP GUN AWARD” (1961) from United States Air Force (USAF) Advance Fighter Flying Academy, Luke Air Force Base, Arizona, was deployed in Jordon as member of the Pakistan Air Force contingent.

In 1974, a few days after the government of Pakistan declared Ahmadi’s as non-Muslim, a Jordanian council of ulema met and declared Ahmadi’s to be Non-Muslim in Jordan. (See Akhbar al-alam al Islam, dated Sep-17-1974, no. 395, page 6, quoted also via Munir Ahmed in Orient 16 (1975): 142-143, n.97, via Friedman).

In the 2000’s, a Jordanian man named Tamim Abu Daqqa converted to Qadianism and began working on MTA-3 (Arabic channel).

In 2023, Khalid Safir seems to be living in Jordan and has given updates, he alleges that there are 100 Ahmadi families (a lie).

In 2025, it seems that there is a semi-famous Jordanian youtuber who goes by the name of Dr. Adil. He has interviewed a well-known Qadiani-Ahmadi pseudo Maulvi named Maulvi Tamim Abu Daqqa. We talked about it in this video herein (see 4:15:35 time stamp). Read about the history of Ahmadiyya in Jordan herein too.

In 2025, a semi-famous atheist named Dr. Ashraf Haddad has converted to Qadianism.

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The history of #Ahmadiyya in #Kuwait

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In 2023, there don’t seem to be any Ahmadi’s in Kuwait, maybe 1 or 2 working on contract. In 1989, when Hassan Bin Mahmood Odeh quit Ahmadiyya, a Kuwaiti newspaper named “Al-Anba-Al-Kuwaitiya published the news of Hassan’s quitting of Ahmadiyya under the title, “Al-Qadianiyyah tan Fajer min Addakhel” (Qadiyyana explodes from within). This was published by a journalist named Abu Nab.

In May of 2025, Ahmadi’s on twitter are reporting how an Ahmadi in the UK, by the name of Qudsi Rasheed is an undercover Qadiani-Ahmadi and has been appointed as “ambassador” for Kuwait. In 2017, Qudsi Rasheed was mentioned in Ahmadiyya literature. Rasheed most recently served as the UK’s Deputy Head of Mission in Cairo, Egypt between 2021 and 2024.

Mr. Qudsi Rasheed OBE has been appointed His Majesty’s Ambassador to The State of #Kuwait, succeeding Her Excellency Belinda Lewis who will be transferring to another Diplomatic Service appointment. Mr Rasheed‘s previous roles include Deputy Head of Mission at the #British Embassy Cairo; Deputy Director Multilateral Policy in the Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office; and Head of the #UK Syria Office in Beirut. He will take up his appointment in September 2025 and will be joined by his wife, Leen, who is expecting their first child this summer.

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In 2005, the Ahmadiyya Movement sent Dr. Ibrahim Assad Odeh to talk to Al-Azhar about being declared as Muslim

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Via the ROR of July-2005, a Qadiani-Ahmadi named Dr. Ibrahim Assad Odeh was visiting Egypt for a seminar on Science and Technology in 2004, and allegedly, as part of that trip, Dr. Ibrahim Assad Odeh decided to visit the Al-Azhar University and confront Muhammad Sayyid Tantawy (the Grand Imam of Al-Azhar, a position he retained until his death in 2010) about the status of #Qadianis as non-Muslim’s via the Al-Azhar fatwa of 1984.

Allegedly, Dr. Ibrahim Assad Odeh met Muhammad Sayyid Tantawy in his chancellery on Dec-14-2004. Muhammad Sayyid Tantawy agreed to meet with an Ahamdi delegation in the future and to discuss the status of Ahmadi’s as non-Muslims. Accordingly, Dr. Ibrahim Assad Odeh got approval from the Ahmadiyya Movement and came back with a delegation that also included, Muhammad Sharif Odeh and Munir Edelbi, on Feb-8-2005, they met Muhammad Sayyid Tantawy. The Qadiani’s also allege to have met with Sheikh Zafzaf, they were told that Al-Azhar would take this under consideration, however, nothing ever came of it.


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Who is Lalah Sharampat of Qadian?

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Lalah Sharampat Ra’i (aka Lalah Sharampat Khatri [See Haqiqatul Wahy], also called Sharampat, the Aryah aka Lala Shrampat)(born 1911 Bikrami or 1855 A. D. and died December, 28th: 1932 A.D., was the Secretary of the Samaj at Qadian, See Dard) was a Hindu resident of Qadian in the 1870’s (until at least 1907). He had a brother named Lala Bisambar Das.

MGA mentioned him indirectly as a witness of his signs in 1880-1882 via his book Barahin-i-Ahmadiyya Vol. 3 (see online english edition, pages 218, 220 and 224). The english editors added the name Lalah Sharampat in the new english translation in 2014, it was never in the original Urdu. However, Lalah Sharampat was illiterate and barely understood what MGA was saying, thus, MGA used them in a deceptive and thought that no one would try to audit these witnesses. As soon as the prophecy was announced by him, Sharampat whom he had quoted as a witness, declared: “Ghulam Ahmad is a liar and an anti -Christ. I never heard this prophecy from him (See Anthology of Pandit Lakhram Takzib·i· Baraheen-i Ahmadiyya, via “Qadiyaniat: an analytical survey” by Ehsan Elahi Zaheer (1984) 21st edition free download – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog). Interestingly, in 1923, in Seeratul Mahdi, an anonymous Hindu is quoted over and over again. MGA also claims to have hold Sharampat before hand about Duleep Singh. Lala Malawamal was a close friend of Lala Sharampat, they were both from Qadian, these are the 2 Hindu’s that MGA mentions in Barahin-e-Ahmadiyya 1-4, the 3rd is Bishandas Brahman (See Haqiqatul Wahy). MGA also claims that Lalah Sharampat and Lala Malawamal were the witnesses in this famous revelation, that became a ring that All Ahmadi’s wear, “Is Allah not sufficient for his servant”. MGA also claims that he prophecied the death of his father (Mirza Ghulam Murtaza) and these 2 were the witnesses. (See “Qadian Kei Aryah Aur Hamm”, in english it would be “The Aryas of Qadian”). MGA also alleges that he prophecied the assassination of Dayanand, and Lalah Sharampat was the witness.

However, a few years later (1885), Lekh Ram came to Qadian and spoke to Lalah Sharampat Ra’i and his friends and they confirmed that they were never witnesses to any signs of MGA, you can read all of this in “Kulliyat Arya Musafir” by Lekh ram (1885), check out the scans in the below.

Nevertheless, (via Barahin-i-Ahmadiyya Vol. 3 see online english edition, pages 218, 220 and 224) MGA claims that 12 years earlier (roughly 1870), Lalah Sharampat’s near family member (Bishambar Das, Dard claims that this is the brother of Sharampat) went to jail with Khush Hal Chand. However, it should be noted that Bishambar Das and Khush Hal Chand were in jail, and Lalah Sharampat was not. Lalah Sharampat seems to have been fighting the case on appeal. At that point, in roughly 1870, Lalah Sharampat asked MGA to show a sign in terms of the result of this case, MGA then alleges to have gotten a dream wherein the result of the case was disclosed to him. At that point, they left each other, MGA then alleges that at night (of the same day?) he got a dream wherein it was allegedly revealed to him that Bishambar Das’ sentence would be reduced by 1/2 but he would not be acquitted; and that his companion (Khush Hal Chand) would serve out the whole of his sentence and he would also not be acquitted. MGA then alleges that he announced this dream to a large number of people and informed Lalah Sharampat Ra’i of it the same day. Ironically, MGA claims to have been in Qadian when the court announced the verdict, and claimed to be in some mosque, however, in 1870, there were no mosques in Qadian. In the same book (Barahin-i-Ahmadiyya Vol. 3 (see online english edition, pages 218, 220 and 224), MGA relates another dream wherein Lalah Sharampat is the witness, MGA alleges that he saw in a dream that someone had sent him fifty rupees towards the cost of publishing the “Barahin-i-Ahmadiyya”. An Aryah (Lalah Sharampat) also saw a dream that someone had sent MGA a thousand rupees for the same purpose. He related his dream to MGA and MGA immediately told him of my dream and said to him: ‘Nineteentwentieths of your dream is false; this is a consequence of your being a Hindu and outside the pale of Islam.

In 1883-1884, MGA mentioned Sharampat by name in Barahin-i-Ahmadiyya Vol. 4 (see page 430) and related the same story. MGA alleged that he got some type of revelations in June of 1883 about the impending death of Dayanand, however, this was never published anywhere. MGA claims to have told the Arya’s of Qadian (which indirectly includes Sharampat), however, this is a lie, this was another “after-the-fact” prophecies that MGA always did.

By 1887, MGA was also calling Sharampat a witness in his “after-the-fact” death prophecy vs. Dayanand (see Shahna-e-Haqq, p. 43, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 2, p. 382, via the 2019, online english edition of Tadhkirah, see page 135).

MGA mentioned him in 1903, via his book, “The Sanatan Faith”. MGA alleges that he invited Kishan Singh, Lala Sharampat, Lala Malawamal of Qadian, and Pundit Saum Raj, Secretary of the Aryah Society of Qadian to his house and Qadian and spoke to them about Niyog (see page 10). MGA even alleged that many members of the Arya Samaj had used foul language against him.

By 1906-1907, the beef was on again in Qadian between the Arya Samaj of Qadian and MGA. While MGA and his team were writing “Haqiqatul Wahy”, they mentioned Sharampat 27 and repeated all of the old info and added a new prophecy, i.e., that MGA told Sharampat that Mirza Ghulam Qadir (MGA’s brother) would die in 1883. In the same book “Haqiqatul Wahy”, MGA admitted that Sharampat and Malawamal had published advertisements against MGA and called MGA a liar and a fake. After MGA died, BA-5 was published and MGA alleged that Sharampat was his close friend in the 1870’s and even went with MGA to get the “Barahin” published.

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Watson Gill vs. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Tariq Chohan and his “Jesus in India” theory

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In this video, a Desi-Christian man opens up MGA’s “Jesus in India” and dismantles the lies of MGA and his team of writers. Watson Gill immediately notices that this book was supposed to be 10 chapters, however, MGA and his team of writers were never able to complete it, in fact, this book wasn’t published until after MGA died. He also mentions how Qadiani’s believe that Eisa (as) was on the cross and was taken down, and given “Marham-e-Isa” and miraculously recovered. Watson Gill even mentions how #Qadianis twist verses of the Quran and how Muslims are right to call them as Kafir. Watson Gill mentions how MGA said that in the books of the Christians “Marham-e-Isa” is mentioned, and this is a lie!

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