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The old tomb of Jesus website, Maulvi Abdullah, Khalifa Noorudin and MGA

Intro
Dear readers, about 10-15 years ago, some Ahmadi made a website called “tombofjesus”.  When the tomb of Yuz Asaf was discovered by some Ahmadi’s (1895 or 1896), it was argued by Maulvi Shaikh Abdullah (the lawyer) who was an inhabitant of Kashmir, that since this tomb was that of a prophet, that eliminated all muslims from the equation, thus it must belong to a Jewish prophet.  Muslims strictly believe that the HP was the final prophet, there were no more prophets to come. Muslims only had one prophet, on the other hand the jewish people had many prophets, in other words because of the concept of khatme-nubuwwat, this had to be a jewish prophet. When HMGA recieved this data he also used the ending of prophethood as his main argument in terms of proving that Yus Asaf was not a muslim.
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Maulvi Sher Ali told the world that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad would send his Arabic writings to Noorudin and Ahsan Amrohi for editing

Intro
MGA hired many people to help him. Noorudin (an ex-Ahle-Hadith Muslim) was the most famous, as was Maulvi Syed Muhammad Ahsan Amrohi (An ex-Ahle-Hadith scholar). In the below, we have proven that MGA always sent his manuscripts for proof-reading to his employee’s. We have also posted the quote from Seeratul Mahdi wherein MGA claimed that all of his Arabic books/writings are a type of revelation, since they were written with the power of Allah. MGA has said this about all of his books, whether arabic or not.
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MGA forced Noorudin to pretend to be Hanafi, even though he was a Wahabbi aka Ahl-e-Hadith

Intro
Nooruddin and MGA were both Ahl-e-Hadith (aka Wahabbi) type of Muslims before 1889.  In fact, MGA’s nikkah was read out by the top Ahl-e-Hadith mullah in North India in 1884.  Wahabbi’s or Ahl-e-Hadith don’t follow any of the 4 schools of Sunni Islam. You can read about Noorudin’s affiliation to the Ahl-e-Hadith herein. He also had a connection with the Deobandi’s.  MGA wanted to Noorudin to pretend to be Hanafi, since this was required for Noorudin to marry a very young Sughra Begum. Read our detailed essay on this topic here. One more piece of evidence, per Ahmadiyya sources, Maulvi Noorudin visited the Wahabi controlled Arabia, and was allowed to enter Mecca at perform Hajj in 1866 (see page 23), this is most likely when he converted to Wahabism.
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When Noorudin fell off of his pony and lived the last 3 years of his life in misery


Intro

Noorudin died in misery. His daughter was then immediately married by the Khalifa and extorted, his sons were then kicked out of Ahmadiyya in the 1950’s. It was not just that noorudin had a few bad days at the end of his life. But according to Tareekh ahmadiyyat vol 3 page 329, he fell from the horse on 18 November 1910 (see Mujahid e Kabir), that is the time when all the deterioration and infections started, if you read on TA vol 3, you will read that he spend next 4 years in misery. This is just another strange story from one of the earliest biographies on Ahmadiyya founders. This quotation is from the biography which Noorudin dictated to Akbar Shah Khan of Najibabad before his death. In 1904, during MGA’s life, “Nur ud Din” was published, this book seems to be an extension of that book. It also written how the Khalifa got up and night and fell as he was urinating (see at the 1:13:13 mark). Check out the reference to 1922 in the below, and the Al-Fazl.
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The ‘Ulama’ of Dar al-‘Uloom Deoband and Noorudin

Intro
We have came across some interesting data in terms of Nooruddin and his affiliations before he went all in with MGA.  Its from a website which represents Deobandi’s.  This new data suggests that Noorudin was formerly a disciple of Shah Abdul Ghani.

The website
http://www.darululoom-deoband.com/english/aboutdarululoom/school_of_thought.htm

The data
He is a direct filial descendent of Seyyidina ‘Umar (radiAllahu ‘anhu), the second Caliph of the Ummah. He was a Hafiz of the Qur’an, and a near-Hafiz of the Sahihayn (Bukhari and Muslim). He had committed the Hajj pilgrimage. He learnt from shuyukh directly in Makkah and Madinah, including Shaykh Shah ‘Abd al-Ghani Mujaddidi, who was in a sanad (chain) of shuyukh going back all the way to the Prophet Muhammad (salAllahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) and including people like Shaykh ‘Abd al-Qadir al-Jilani (rh). This is not my claim, but what the ‘Ulama’ of Dar al-‘Uloom Deoband themselves admit as can be seen here:

He was also a trained Mufti and trained in both Hanafi and Hanbali fiqh (although he was the latter). Allama Iqbal of Pakistan often asked him questions of fiqh. He also adhered to all the physical zhahiri sunnahs as well (turban, fist-length beard, cloak, etc.) Why would such a man be the first ever mureed of the Imam al-Mahdi, Seyyidina Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as)? Someone asked him that exact question and his reply was that: “Before I could see the Prophet Muhammad (sa) in my dreams. Now I see him while I am alive” (referring to the blessed example of the Ghulam of Ahmad, who was a complete reflection of his master, Seyyidina Muhammad (sa)).

Relates essays
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/07/maulvi-nooruddin-was-an-ahle-a-hadith-aka-wahhabi-type-of-muslim/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/01/22/the-ahmadi-mullah-maulvi-nooruddin-wanted-to-kill-all-ahmadis-who-ask-that-he-step-down-as-khalifa/

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Per MGA, Noorudin was worth a 1000 Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti’s

Intro
MGA had a team working with him day and night.  When Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti suddenly died in 1905, MGA got worried.  There is a story from this era wherein the wives of Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti competed for MGA’s attention and love, they both contended that their husband was nearer and dearer to MGA.

The quotes
Hayat-e-Nur p.299

See Hadrhat Maulwi Noorudin by Zafrullah Khan, page 95-96

Some time after the death of Maulawi ‘Abdul Karim, Maulawi Nur-ud-Dinra happened to fall ill.
The Promised Messiahas visited him every day, and on one occasion busied himself with preparing some medicine for him. Hadrat Ummul Mu’minin ra sensing his anxiety and seeking to comfort him observed:

“””Maulawi Burhanuddin has passed away, Maulawi ‘Abdul Karim has died; may Allah, of His mercy, restore Maulawi Sahib speedily to health; whereupon the Promised Messiah affirmed: “This one is the equal of a thousand ‘Abdul Karims.”””

Wherein the wives ofd Nooruddin and Abdul Karim competed

On one occasion Maulawi ‘Abdul Karim’s wife and Maulawi Nur-ud-Din’s wife each contended that her husband was the favourite of the Promised Messiah. They invited his wife, Hadrat Ummul Mu’mininra, to pronounce on the question. She said there was no difficulty, the question could be settled in a trice. She approached the Promised Messiah and began: “Your dearest companion …” He interrupted her and enquired in an agitated tone: “Is anything the matter with Maulawi Nur-ud-Din?”

Links and Related Essays
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/06/the-life-and-death-of-maulvi-abdul-karim-sialkoti/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/06/per-mga-noorudin-was-worth-1000-maulvi-abdul-karim-sialkotis/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/24/dr-abdul-hakim-khan-patialvi-mentions-the-death-of-maulvi-abdul-karim-in-his-correspondence-with-mga/

Click to access hope200802_abdulkarimsialkotipromisedmessiah.pdf

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/08/the-agonizing-death-of-maulvi-abdul-karim-sialkoti-1905/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/12/lecture-sialkot-was-delivered-by-maulvi-abdul-kareem-not-mga-1904/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/30/maulvi-abdul-kareem-claims-prophethood-per-mga-maulvi-amrohi-disagrees/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/24/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-knew-maulvi-abdul-karim-since-the-mid-1860s-in-sialkot/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/10/24/noorudin-and-abdul-karim-were-influenced-by-sir-syed/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/17/ahmadiyya-leadership-lied-about-the-first-bait-ceremony-in-1889/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/02/mufti-muhammad-sadiq-was-a-student-of-noorudin-pre-1891/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/27/maulvi-abdul-kareem-lived-exclusively-with-mga-on-the-3rd-floor-of-mgas-house/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/24/the-wife-of-maulvi-abdul-karim-sialkoti-zainab-bibi/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/17/how-i-became-an-ahmadi-by-dr-basharat-ahmad-the-famous-lahori-ahmadi-who-wrote-mujadid-e-azam/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/11/25/some-brief-notes-on-the-philosophy-of-the-teachings-of-islam-aka-islami-usool-ki-falasifi-1896/

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How Mirza Basheeruddin Mahmud Ahmad killed his own wife, Amtul Hai, the daughter of Noorudin

Intro
Noorudin was the main ghost writer for MGA. He even moved into MGA’s house around 1893, Nooruddin and his young wife(they married in 1889), they didn’t seem to have kids until 1898 or so. Which is very odd for a new couple. There were 5 children in total for Noorudin and Sughra Begum. The surviving sons of Noorudin were ex-communicated by Mirza Basheer uddin Mahmud Ahmad in 1956. Noorudin’s daughter from this marriage was married to the new Khalifa in 1914, her name was Amtul Hai (1900-1924), she was barely 14 when she was forcibly bequeathed to the Khalifa, Mirza Basheer uddin Mahmud Ahmad, however, she didn’t have many options, and her father didn’t leave anything behind for this set of children. In these days, Ahmadiyya leaders officially supported child marriage. The first part of this story can be found here.
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How Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad forcibly married Noorudin’s daughter Amtul Hai in 1914?

Intro
Noorudin was the main ghost writer for MGA. He even moved into MGA’s house around 1893, Nooruddin and his young wife (they married in 1889), they didn’t seem to have kids until 1898 or so. Which is very odd for a new couple. There were 5 children in total for Noorudin and Sughra Begum. The surviving sons of Noorudin were ex-communicated by Mirza Basheer uddin Mahmud Ahmad in 1956. Noorudin’s daughter from this marriage was married to the new Khalifa on May 31st, 1914, her name was Amtul Hai (1900-1924), she was barely 14 when she was forcibly bequeathed to the Khalifa, Mirza Basheer uddin Mahmud Ahmad, however, she didn’t have many options, and her father didn’t leave anything behind for this set of children.  In these days, Ahmadiyya leaders officially supported child marriage. We have found a very important interview by Mushtaq Malik wherein he interviews Professor Chaudhary Ghulam Rasool Sahib. This is from the 2009-2010 era. Professor Chaudhary Ghulam Rasool Sahib gives lots of info on Mirza Mahmud Ahmad’s forced marriage with the daughter of Noorudin. He goes on to explain how Mirza Mahmud Ahmad poisoned her in 1924, which caused her to die.
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Maulvi Noorudin was a Ahl-e-Hadith type of Muslim

Intro
I have written about the role of Noorudin in Ahmadiyya development many times in the past.  What Ahmadis hate to mention is that Nooruddin’s Ahmadi-sons were forcibly kicked out of Ahmadiyya in the 1950’s, it was a messy divorce. In fact, One of Nooruddin’s sons went  on to represent he Lahori-Ahmadi’s in court in 1974, as the Lahori’s presented their case to the famous NA assembly. Nevertheless, Noorudin’s eldest daughter (Amamah or Imamah) was married into the Ghaznavi family, to a son of Abdullah Ghaznavi. This marriage must have happened in the 1880’s, Ahmadiyya sources don’t give a date (“”Hakeem Noor-ud-Deen – Khalifatul Masih I – The Way of the Righteous”” by Syed Hasanat Ahmad see page 40). They had 2 sons and one daughter and seemed to have also moved to Qadian. Amama died mysteriously in 1897 per Ahmadiyya sources, this entire family seems to have also lived with MGA in his mansion. Later on, these children would grow up and challenge their cousins in the Ahrars and the Ahmadiyya conflict their in the 1930’s (See Adil Hussain, “From Sufi-ism to Ahmadiyya”). Ahmadiyya leaders were are connected to Nawab Siddiq Hassan Khan also. In fact, the princess of Bhopal was married to Nawab Siddiq Hassan Khan and was the single biggest donor towards the failed Braheen e Ahmadiyya series.
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