Intro
His name appears in the settlement of 1865 in Dard, (see page 68), his birth year and death year are unknown. He is an uncle of Mirza Ata Muhammad, Mirza Ghulam Murtaza’s grandfather. In 1865, his off-spring were finally added to the pension that was already supposed to be given to all the males of the Mirza family. His only surviving male in 1865 was Mirza Jilani, who was the son of Mirza Tasadduq Jilani. Mirza Jilani was a distant paternal uncle of MGA and Mirza Jilani was a sort of second cousin. MGA mentions Mirza Jilani in his book Haqiqatul Wahy (1907) 4 times. He mentions him specifically in terms of the “Case of the Wall”. The settlement of 1865 specified a new pension arrangement as such, 700 rupees ; two-fifths belonged to the descendants of Mirza Tasadduq Jilani, two fifths to those of Mirza Gul Muhammad, and one-fifth to Mirza Ghulam Murtaza as the managing proprietor (see Dard page 68). He is also mentioned in the ROR of Aug-1939.
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Intro
Mirza Ghulam Hussain was a paternal cousin of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Mirza Imam ud Din, Mirza Nizam ud Din and Mirza Ghulam Qadir. His father was Mirza Ghulam Haidar. He seems to have went missing after the settlement of 1865. He was married to Imam Bibi, who was the sister of Mirza Ahmad Baig (Beg). He is mentioned in the Punjab Chiefs in terms of the family tree of MGA. It was his land which was in-limbo as MGA asked to marry Muhammadi Begum. In roughly 1887 Mirza Ahmad Baig had approached MGA in an attempt to get MGA to transfer over the property fully into Imam Bibi’s name, MGA had the full legal right to accept or deny this. This would have given Imam Bibi the power to name an heir to the property, if MGA didn’t sign, at her death the property would revert to the children of Mirza Ghulam Murtaza (MGA and Mirza Sultan Ahmad) and the children of Mirza Ghulam Muhi-ud-Din (Imam ud Din, Nizam ud Din and their sisters). He is mentioned in the ROR of Aug-1939 and Dec-1939.
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Intro
Mirza Ghulam Haidar was the youngest brother of Mirza Ghulam Murtaza and Mirza Ghulam Muhi ud Din. He had one child, Mirza Ghulam Hussain who was married off to a sister (her name was Mai Sahib Jan, see ROR of June-1939) of Mirza Ahmad Baig (Beg) pre-1865, her name was Imam Bibi (see Dard page 170). Ahmad Beg was the father of Muhammadi Begum. Thus, MGA was related to Muhammadi Begum 4-5 different ways. Imam Bibi and Mirza Ghulam Hussain had NO children, Ahmadiyya sources say that he had been missing for 25 years (1888-25=1853) since roughly 1853, however, we don’t agree with this. We think that he was missing since 1865. Since in the settlement of 1865 he received a pension and other property rights which were continually yielding high monthly income and he is specifically mentioned in the 1865 edition of the Punjab Chiefs.
Furthermore, in 1902, Ghulam Haider’s relatives (MGA’s nephews and cousins) who had inherited Haider’s house, which was right next to MGA’s house had died (imam bibi died in 1902), and half of that house was given to MGA, MGA seems to have bought the other half and thus created a mansion for himself. He is mentioned in the ROR of Aug-1939.
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Intro
In 2025, this book was published in English for the first time.
Dear readers, after MGA died, there were 3 books that were published posthumously in 1908 and 1909, “Jesus in India”, “Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya Vol. 5” and “Nuzul ul Masih”. These books were cover-up jobs, the BA5 addressed the failure of MGA’s “age-prophecy”, which promised that MGA would live until age 80, which would be 1920, however, MGA died early of cholera. In 2025, “Nuzul ul Maseeh” was mis-translated into English by the Qadiani-Ahmadi‘s.
In this book, MGA claims that his father died in 1875, and he also wrote that his brother died in 1881. Why did he do this? His editors did this to discredit MGA himself and assert that MGA was just guessing, they were thus able to adjust his year of birth back 4-5 years to 1835. Ahmadi sources claim that MGA began writing this book in 1902. MGA and his team also added a new detail to the Lekh Ram prophecy, i.e. that he would killed via a knife. MGA’s editors also denied that he was a Hanafi in this book.
The title of this book translates into english is “The Descent of the Messiah”, however, Ahmadi sources call it “The Second Coming of the Messiah”. This book was published on the 25th of August 1909. Interestingly enough, Ahmadiyya sources have just published an english translation of ‘Ijaz i Ahmadi” (1902). The first 55 pages of Ijaz i Ahmadi are in fact the Appendix for Nuzul ul Masih.
In 1909, in the book, “Nuzul-ul-Maseeh” (see page 197), MGA compared Nusrat Jehan with Muhammad’s (Saw) wife, Khadija (ra). MGA and his team of writers alleged that in Barahin-i-Ahmadiyya, V-4, page 558, MGA received a revelation “Be grateful to Me that you have found My Khadija” and this was a prediction of a happy marriage with Nusrat Jehan, however, this revelation is not found anywhere in MGA’s books. MGA even alleged that this happy marriage resulted in 4 sons (however, Mirza Mubarak Ahmad died in 1907, making it 3). MGA alleged that Nusrat Jehan was given the name of “Khadija” and she was blessed to be the mother of blessed progeny. MGA also alleges that Nusrat Jehan is Sadat and thus from the family of Muhammad (Saw)(naozobillah). In 1909, in Nuzul ul Maseeh, MGA and his team of writers claimed that many opponents of the Ahmadiyya movement had in-fact joined the Ahmadiyya movement when the plague hit the Punjab, however, this is a lie.
In 1909, after MGA died, in Nazulul Masih, RK-18. page 553, MGA and his team of writers alleged that there was no sign of plague in Mumbai, at which point MGA prayed for the plague to come and that prayer was accepted. MGA and his team of writers also alleged that in the Qaseeda that they had written, which is in Hamatul Bushra, MGA had wanted the plague to come.
“The Ahmadiyya Movement and Ahmad’s place among the Prophets” (Part-3) bt M. Ataur Rahman is published via the ROR of Dec-1914. He quotes MGA’s books like, “Haqiqatul Wahy”, “Nuzul ul Masih”, “Barahin-i-Ahmadiyya Vol. 5”, “Tiryaq ul Qulub” and “Chashma-e-Marifat”.
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Intro
Murad Bibi was the eldest child of Mirza Ghulam Murtaza, (See Dard, page 33). She had two siblings that lived, Mirza Ghulam Qadir and Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, her first cousins were Mirza Imam ud Din and Mirza Nizam ud Din, and her niece was the famous Muhammadi Begum. She was married to Mirza Muhammed Baig in Hoshiarpur very early on in her life (he died early and she lived as a widow)(see Seeratul Mahdi), most likely by the age of 11, she probably visited Qadian all the time. Mirza Muhammad Baig’s younger brother was Ahmad Baig (also spelled Ahmad Beg), he married the sister of Mirza Imam ud Din, and his daughter was Muhammadi Begum. Thus MGA knew Muhammadi Begum from an early age, since he was her uncle in 3-4 different ways, MGA was a super uncle so to speak. Mirza Ahmad Baig‘s sister was also married to another cousin of MGA, Mirza Ghulam Hussain, the son of Mirza Ghulam Haidar, who was the brother of Mirza Ghulam Murtaza and Mirza Ghulam Muhi ud Din. As you can see, the Baig (Beg) family of Hoshiarpur and the Mirza family at Qadian intermarried with each other exclusively. I would guess that she was born in roughly 1830, which is a few years before Mirza Ghulam Qadir, her death year is unknown.
Nevertheless, in the below, we have posted 2 references from Seeratul Mahdi which describe the insanity of MGA’s sister, Murad Bibi. She is also mentioned in the ROR of June-1938.
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In 1791, Mirza Ghulam Murtaza was born in Qadian (allegedly). His father was Mirza Ata Muhammad. He was known to be a heavy smoker (tobacco and everything else). He never prayed as a Muslim and spent his life in the company of British and Sikh officers. Mirza Ghulam Murtaza was a non-practicing Muslim, he never prayed any salat and never attended a Juma. Murtaza also hated the laziness of MGA. MGA hated his father and elder brother and told the world that he was happy that they died. MGA wrote that his father died of Pechis (dysentery, bloody diarrhea)(see Kitab ul barriya and the grave stone at the Masjid Aqsa).
In 1802, his father, Mirza Ata Muhammad and his father Mirza Gul Muhammad had fought off the Sikh misls of Ramgharia and Kanheya. However, they lost Qadian by roughly 1802, which was a fortress city. Mirza Ata Muhammad was forced to flee to a small village called Begowal, which was on the other side of the river Beas, and under the control of a Sikh Sirdar named Fatah Singh Ahluwalia. This was another misl of the Sikh Empire, it bordered with the British government, it is said that this Sirdar was a relative of some important Muslims from the princely state of Kaparthula. Fateh Singh Ahluvalia protected the Mirza family of Qadian from 1802 to 1814 (see Punjab Chiefs), as the Mirza family fled Qadian and crossed the river Beas and settled in Beghowal. Ranjit Singh was in power, he thus confiscated all the misl’s in the Punjab and gave it governmental ownership, except the Ahluwalia Misl, and this is where Mirza Ghulam Murtaza lived. He might have met his wife (Charagh Bibi) in a village named Aima in this era. From 1840-1855, MGA went to Aima many times in his youth.
In 1814, Mirza Ata Muhammad died was allowed to be buried in Qadian. Thereafter, Mirza Ghulam Murtaza and his extended family were allowed to move back to Qadian (see Griffin, Punjab Chiefs and See also “The Quest for the Past: Retracing the History of Seventeenth-Century Sikh Warrior”). Ranjit Singh then gave 5 villages (+Qadian) back to Mirza Ghulam Murtaza and his brothers. Mirza Ghulam Murtaza and his brothers joined the Sikh military, wherein they served until 1849-ish. Ahmadiyya sources dispute this and claim that the Mirza moved back to Qadian as early as the 1820’s). He was mentioned in some detail by Sir Lepel Griffin in The Punjab Chiefs, a survey of the Punjab’s aristocracy (1865 edition).
In 1819, Ahmadiyya sources tell us that he Mirza Ghulam Murtaza was in the Sikh military (See Life of Ahmad by Dard)(See Punjab Chiefs, 1865 edition). By 1843, Mirza Ghulam Murtaza was leading Army regiments and specifically in Peshawar.
In the 1820’s, the extended Mirza family were living in Qadian and serving in the Sikh military.
In the 1830’s, Mirza Ghulam Murtaza was a fortune teller in the 1830′s as well as a commander in the Sikh Army (1814-1845-ish). He was known to be a heavy smoker (tobacco and everything else)(see ROR of June-July-Aug-1939 and ROR of 2009). He never prayed as a Muslim and spent his life in the company of British and Sikh officers. MGA tells us that his father “awaited the arrival of the British monarchy like a very thirsty person looks forward to water” [RK, v. 15, p. 113; a little below the middle of the page]. What Mirza Ghulam Ahmad fails to tell us is that his father was fighting on the side of the Sikhs when they were fighting Sayyad Ahmad Baraylvee. Mirza Ghulam Murtaza was barely 22 years old and he entered the Sikh military, he helped kill the Muslims in the battle of Peshawar.
In the 1830’s, Murtaza eventually married Charagh Bibi, the sister of Mirza Jami‘at Baig of Aima, a village in Hoshiarpur district, we are not sure if the Mirza family ever married into this family ever again, nevertheless, they had 3 children that lived, Murad Bibi (1830), Mirza Ghulam Qadir (1833) and MGA. MGA was thus born in early 1840 in Qadian, whereas his cousins Imam ud Din, Nizam ud Din and his older brother Mirza Ghulam Qadir were not.
In 1841, Mirza Ghulam Murtaza was sent with General Ventura to Mandi and Kulu (See Punjab Chiefs, 1865 edition). Khalsa Fauj under general Ventura and local detachments moved into the Shivalik and Himalayan hills, subduing local hill chieftains in Mandi and Kulu.
In 1842, Ahmadiyya sources tell us that Mirza Ghulam Murtaza was serving (see Dard) under Jean-Baptiste Ventura, who was an Italian that was working with the Sikh empire in terms of armaments and leading armies. It seems that this Italian was ran out of India when Mahārājā Sher Siṅgh’s assassination happened in September 1843.
In 1843, Mirza Ghulam Murtaza was leading Army regiments and specifically in Peshawar (See Punjab Chiefs, 1865 edition).
In 1857, Mirza Ghulam Murtaza and his brothers, sons and nephews, except MGA served in the British military and helped kill the Sepoy mutineers. MGA stays at home, most likely because of his broken right arm. Mirza Sultan Ahmad is just an infant. Mirza Ghulam Murtaza provided the British government with 50 horses and 50+ soldiers and thus were able to help the British at their most vulnerable time (see Dard page 19).
In 1858, Mirza Ghulam Murtaza was awarded a pension of 200 rupees per year by the British government in 1858 (See Dard, page 18). This remained the same in 1865, as the rest of the family was included in the pension. In 1865, the settlement is as follows: That the pension was for 700 rupees, and it was given to the entire family, the 4 mirza brothers, not simply to MGA’s father, who was the leader of the entire family, the settlement of 1865, wherein 2/5th’s of the 700 rupee pension was divided. The Mirza estate was divided into five parts; two-fifths belonged to the descendants of Mirza Tasadduq Jilani, two fifths to those of Mirza Gul Muhammad, and one-fifth to Mirza Ghulam Murtaza as the managing proprietor (see Dard page 68).
In 1865, Mirza Ghulam Murtaza was mentioned in some detail by Sir Lepel Griffin in The Punjab Chiefs, a survey of the Punjab’s aristocracy.
In 1865, according to the Settlement of 1865 (with the British govt. see Punjab Chiefs), the Mirza estate was divided into five parts; two-fifths belonged to the descendants of Mirza Tasadduq Jilani, two fifths to those of Mirza Gul Muhammad, and one-fifth to Mirza Ghulam Murtaza as the managing proprietor (see Dard page 68). In fact, Mirza Ghulam Murtaza was the “head of the family”, even the Punjab Chiefs, his name is listed under the header. That the pension was for 700 rupees, and it was given to the entire family, the 4 mirza brothers, not simply to MGA’s father, who was the leader of the entire family, the settlement of 1865, wherein 2/5th’s of the 700 rupee pension was divided. The Mirza estate was divided into five parts; two-fifths belonged to the descendants of Mirza Tasadduq Jilani, two fifths to those of Mirza Gul Muhammad, and one-fifth to Mirza Ghulam Murtaza as the managing proprietor (see Dard page 68).
In the 1860’s, Mirza Bashir Ahmad explains how Maulvi Rahim Bux (M.A.) told him that one time Mirza Sultan Ahmad told him that one time the Deputy Commissioner of Gurdaspur toured Qadian. The Deputy Commissioner met with Mirza Ghulam Murtaza and they set off for Qadian. As they were travelling to Qadian, the Deputy Commissioner asked Mirza Ghulam Murtaza if he preferred the Sikh government or the British Government. Mirza Ghulam Murtaza responded and said when he gets to his village (Qadian) he will answer. When they arrived at Qadian, Mirza Ghulam Murtaza showed how all of his buildings had been built during the Sikhs. Mirza Ghulam Murtaza then said that he doesn’t think that his sons won’t ever need to repair them. “Kadeem Shahee rung kee thee” (a King’s color, like red brick).
In 1867, the Mirza family sues each other over land disputes (see dard page, 714). Mirza Ghulam Murtaza is also a party to a law-suit between Ghulam Jeelani (also spelled Jilani) and Imam Din. Jeelani was given 2/5 of the 700 rupees as well as many parcels of land. Imam Din won the case with Mirza Ghulam Murtaza also an owner. This would play out later in the case of the wall.
In 1868, MGA’s mother dies and is buried. MGA is thus allowed to return to Qadian.
In 1876, Mirza Ghulam Murtaza had the Masjid Aqsa built and died soon thereafter (See Griffin and the 1890 edition of the Punjab Chiefs. In Kitab ul Barriyya, MGA wrote that when his father died he was 34 or 35 years old, he also said that his father died at age 85, which is totally accurate per my timeline. However, in 1909, “Nuzul ul Masih” was published and MGA said (RK 18, P 495) today is 10 august 1902 (RK 18, P 495). He says from today 28 years ago my father died. 1902-28= 1874 so mga´s Father died in 1874. There seems to be an error here, we blame MGA). The piece of land on which it stands belonged at that time to the Sikhs, and he bought it at an auction at the very high bid of Rs. 700. He had made up his mind to buy it at any cost, as he wanted to make amends for the worldly pursuits in which he had spent his life. People taunted him for building such a big mosque while there were no worshippers for it. Little did they know that it was to be crowded with devotees, and that the sincerity with which it was built was to be reflected in the necessity to extend it again and again. He also tried to regain possession of the mosque which was converted into a temple; but the legal proceedings he instituted did not meet with any success. The mosque is situated inside the compound of the family house of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad which now serves as the centre of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community in India located close to the White Minaret and important offices of the community.
In 1894 (Jul-4)(muharram 1312), MGA and his team of writers argued that per the famous hadith in Abu Dawod, i.e., even if there was only one day left in the world, Allah would extend it until He has sent someone from me or from my progeny. His name shall be like mine, and
the name of his father shall be like my father’s. MGA argues that this he fulfills this hadith spiritually (See “Sirrul Khalifa, online English edition, pages 89-90). MGA also argues that sometimes, two persons can have the same names, such as ‘Ahmad’ and ‘Ahmad’ (this indirectly refers to 61:6, Ismuhu Ahmad). MGA quoted 2:31 (2:32 in the Kadiani Koran) and alleged to have been taught like Adam (as)(Naozobillah). MGA also argued that per this specific hadith his father (Mirza Ghulam Murtaza) was like the father of Muhammad (Saw)(naozobillah), because both of them were ready to receive the light of faith but left this world before they were able to do so and died in obscurity (See page 91).
In 1909, it is important to note that MGA incorrectly wrote the death of his father in a book published in 1909, Nuzul ul Masih, MGA and his team of ghost writers wrote 1875, instead of 1876.
In 1939, Mirza Ghulam Murtaza was mentioned in the ROR of June-July-Aug.
In 2009, Mirza Ghulam Murtaza was mentioned in the ROR.
Intro
In 1833, per Ahmadiyya sources, Mirza Ghulam Qadir was born (See Dard). Ahmadi sources claim that he was 55 years old in 1883 when he died (see dard, page 33), this would make him 7 years older than MGA (if we use 1835 as MGA’s birth, which Dard did), Dard is the only source that estimates his age.
In 1855, He was married to his first cousin, Hurmat bibi (the sister of Imam ud Din) in roughly 1854 (this is based on the fact that MGA was 14 when he got married) and his son, Mirza Sultan Ahmad was born when MGA was 16 (1856). MGA was married in roughly the same time frame In fact, their marriage ceremonies were celebrated much differently. Mirza Ghulam Qadir’s marriage had 22 dancing girls and a huge party that probably lasted a few days. MGA’s wedding was a funeral, no one had any fun nor was anyone happy (see dard).
In 1857, he and his family fought for the British during the mutiny of 1857. He served under his fathers (Mirza Ghulam Murtaza) 50 horses and 50 fighters, as a result of this military service, he was awarded a separate pension from the British (see Ishaat us Sunnah of 1883-84 and ROR of August 1907). His father, cousins and uncles helped kill the mutineers from Sialkot as they were travelling from Sialkot to Delhi to join in the mutiny.
In 1858, a pension of 200 rupees was given to the Mirza family.
In 1865, the Punjab Chiefs accidentally wrote his name as Mirza Ghulam Kadar and wrote that he was the nephew of Mirza Ghulam Murtaza, this was an error, however, the 1890 edition carried the same error and even called him as the son of Mirza Ghulam Muhammad (Mirza Ghulam Murtaza‘s brother). It even says that he died in 1883. The Punjab Chiefs tells us that Mirza Ghulam Qadir was a major warrior under General Nicholson in the battle of Trimu Ghat, this was where the mutineers were stuck on an island and were forcibly drowned, this was the 46th native infantry. This is why the Mirza family was above the law in British-India. His cousin, Mirza Imam ud Din also helped the British extensively in Delhi and was a soldier in Hodge’s horseman. Many of his uncles also served. In fact, a letter was given by General Nicholson stating that the Mirza family was the most loyal in the Gurdaspur district, General Nicholson died shortly thereafter. It should be noted that before the British took over, the entire Mirza family was serving in the Sikh military and Mirza Ghulam Murtaza was soooo trusted that he was a commander of an infantry regiment. However, as soon as the sikhs lost to the British, the Mirza family seems to have lost all prestige, this is from 1848 to 1857. It is unclear what the Mirza family did in this era.
In 1865, the famous settlement took place and the rest of the Mirza family were included as it rose to 700 rupees (See Dard).
In 1868, his mother died (Chiragh Bibi). His own son, Abdul Kadir dies (see “Families of note” by Griffen).
In the 1870’s, Mirza Ghulam Qadir, was a Sub-Inspector of Police and Mr. Nisbet, D. C., once suspended him. The D. C., spoke of it to the Mirza Sahib when he came to Qadian, whereupon Mirza Sahib said that if his son was really guilty he should be punished in such a manner that his punishment should serve as an example to the sons of all respectable families. The D. C. was much pleased and pardoned Mirza Ghulam Qadir, saying that the son of such a father needed no punishment (see Dard).
In 1876, his father, Mirza Ghulam Murtaza died. He becomes the head of the Mirza family (see Dard, page 19 and 67). He did not give MGA much money at all. In fact, even his wife (Hurmat Bibi) disliked MGA. After the death of Mirza Ghulam Murtaza, his nephews took Mirza Ghulam Qadir and his MGA to court over the land that was given to Mirza Ghulam Murtaza. Since he was given 1/5th separately. MGA’s cousins won the case, thus, when Mirza Sultan Ahmad came into power (1883) he immediately transferred the land to his cousins (see Dard, page 69-70). This would come to play out in the case of the wall in 1901. Mirza Ghulam Qadir continues to receive a pension at 180 rupees.
In 1876-1877, Mir Nasir Nawab comes to Qadian at stays at the mirza house per the invitation of Mirza Ghulam Qadir.
In 1878, MGA alleges in Barahin-i-Ahmadiyya 1 that his brother Mian Ghulam Qadir donated 5 rupees and pre-ordered a copy of the book (see page 13).
In 1883, Mirza Ghulam Qadir died. His widow (Hurmat Bibi) seems to have moved out of Qadian. His nephew Mirza Sultan Ahmad takes over as the family representative to the British government (see Punjab Chiefs, 1890 edition). There was lots of tension in the Mirza family in this era, in fact, MGA’s cousins won a huge against him and the Mirza Ghulam Murtaza estate, which seems to be the reason that Mirza Ghulam Qadir died. MGA claims to have seen a dream wherein the death of Mirza Ghulam Qadir was intimated to him, this was published after MGA died (1909). In the same book, in the same arrogant vein, MGA claims that he told his brother that this court case would fail. This is yet another example of MGA claiming revelations after the fact (see Tadhkirah, online 2009 edition). MGA’s family friend, Syed Muhamamd Hussain Batalvi mentioned his life in the British military in his newspaper, Ishaat us Sunnah in this year, it was quoted by Ahmadiyya sources in the ROR of 1907, see page 290, August-1907. He died in 1883, in 1907-1907 via “Haqiqatul Wahy” (see pages 458-459, online english edition), MGA claimed that this brother also suffered from migraine and dizziness, which led to epilepsy. MGA claimed to be afflicted with same 2 diseases. MGA claimed that his brother died as a result of this disease and that it was heriditary.
In 1890, Mirza Ghulam Qadir is mentioned in the 1890 edition of the Punjab Chiefs. MGA claims that he see’s a dream wherein Mirza Ghulam Qadir is telling him that the word Qadian is in the Quran (See Tadhkirah, 2009 online edition and Izala Auham).
In 1898, in MGA’s book, “Najm ul Huda”, MGA admitted that he was hated by his father and elder brother (*since he was lazy and ate opium all day) and refused to work (and lived a private life with no interaction with anyone). Thus, MGA’s god caused MGA’s father (Mirza Ghulam Murtaza)(died at roughly age 85) to die as well as MGA’s elder brother Mirza Ghulam Qadir (who died at roughly age 50). In fact, during MGA’s childhood, MGA’s father repeatedly called MGA a girlie-man. MGA’s father would not allow MGA to raise his own children. MGA was a momma’s boy, his mom would repeatedly save MGA and make sure that MGA never had to work. In 1864, MGA was sent to pickup his father’s pension money and squandered it all. This was the worst thing that MGA had ever done, he was thus punished by being forced to work in Sialkot in the courts and specifically to never see his mother again (who was blamed or MGA’s being useless and lazy). MGA’s mother died in 1868, after she died, a messenger was sent to Sialkot to bring MGA home, thus MGA’s punishment was complete, MGA even missed the funeral.
In 1903-1907, MGA was claiming to see dreams wherein Mirza Ghulam Qadir was talking to MGA and etc (see Tadhkirah, 2009 online edition).
In 1908, MGA died in Lahore.
In 1916, Ahmadiyya sources claim that Hurmat Bibi (Mirza Ghulam Qadir’s widow) took a pledge of allegiance at the hand of 2nd Khalifa (See ROR of Oct-1942 also)(See al-Fadl, volume 3, number 94, March 4, 1916, page-1, A19160304 and Via Tadhkirah).
In 1939, Mirza Ghulam Qadir is mentioned in the ROR of June-1939 and Aug.
In 1946 (Nov), Mirza Ghulam Qadir is mentioned in the ROR of Nov.
Intro
Dear readers, this is from an Ex-Ahmadi. I re-produce it here in its entirety.
The entry
I wanted to share my appearance on my friend’s podcast series, where I discuss what it means to challenge one’s beliefs, question one’s faith, and eventually find an identity which aligns with their values.
The podcast can be found here: https://myhorseheart.com/2018/12/11/a-courageous-heart-for-authenticity/
It is a fairly long listen at 43 minutes, so the following are timestamps for the various points of discussion:
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0:30 – Introduction
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2:10 – Motivation for an Interview
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7:10 – Challenging One’s Beliefs
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9:10 – Emotions While Questioning
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12:00 – Specific Catalysts
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15:55 – Coming Out Publicly
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23:30 – Conversations With Family
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31:10 – Improved Relationships
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34:00 – Advice to Others
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37:40 – Moderating Inner Dialogues
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40:30 – Conclusion
I also share my name and face in this interview, because I think it’s so important that those of us who are able to publicly denounce Ahmadiyyat and speak up about it should, for the sake of those who are in more dire and unfortunate situations where they are either held-back by their families, or are unable to be granted a space to actually question their beliefs – I hope that this will help some of the readers here with their journey through the indoctrination
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Intro
Mirza Nizam ud Din (born in 1845–)(See Punjab Chiefs, 1909 edition)was a cousin of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, he was the son of Mirza Ghulam Muhi-ud-Din. He was the eldest brother of Mirza Imam ud Din. MGA’s brother, Mirza Ghulam Qadir was married to Mirza Nizam ud Din’s sister, Hurmat Bibi, they had no children. His other sister was married to Ahmad Beg of Hoshiarpur, the famous Muhammadi Begum. He was alive and well by 1909, and 74 years old, he seems to have outlived all of his cousins. He never accepted MGA or Ahmadiyya (See Punjab Chiefs, 1909 edition). In 1919, it is reported by the Al-Fazl that the Nizam ud Din’s family lives right next to the Aqsa Mosque, Nizam ud Din and Imam ud Din owned a huge house which resembled a mansion and it was really close to home of MGA. Nizam ud Din was dead by 1919. Dard reports that the only child remaining from this progeny was Gul Muhammad who had converted to Ahmadiyya between 1908 and 1919. Dard also reports that their property was donated to the Ahmadiyya Movement. He is mentioned in the ROR of Aug-1939, Oct-1939 and Dec-1939. He is mentioned by his grandson, Mirza Aziz Ahmad in the ROR of Oct-1942.
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