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December 2017

Ahmadi cuts his own 2 year old daughters throat in Germany

Intro
I found this article on reddit, another ex-ahmadi by the name of Reason on Faith had posted it on twitter recently.   For an essay on Ahmadi’s killing their daughter in Germany, see here: https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/08/07/an-ahmadi-family-murdered-their-own-daughter-in-germany-honor-killings/

A translation of a German article

“Sohail A. comes to Germany in 2011 as an asylum seeker. He first lives in Gießen, but apparently soon travels to Hamburg more often to visit relatives. Here he meets Lubna A., who also comes from Pakistan, belongs to the persecuted Islamic Ahmadiyya community there and has been granted asylum in Germany. A., who is Sunni, converts to the Ahmadiyya community and marries Lubna A. 2014 under Islamic law. A little later, the two get their daughter Ayesha.”

http://www.zeit.de/2017/47/asylpolitik-mord-ayesha-abschiebung-jugendamt

http://www.bild.de/news/inland/kindesmord/kindermoerder-aeysha-sohail-a-foto-53690208.bild.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5028429/Pakistani-man-Germany-slashed-daughter-s-throat.html

The links
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5028429/Pakistani-man-Germany-slashed-daughter-s-throat.html

The write up

Fugitive asylum seeker, 33, who ‘fled Germany after slashing his toddler daughter’s throat is captured in Spain’

  • Sohail A, 33, fled from his family home in Hamburg, Germany, on Monday night
  • He fled while his wife was reporting domestic violence at a local police station
  • When his wife returned to the home, she found her daughter had been murdered
  • Solhail was living in Germany illegally after his asylum application was rejected

Interpol is involved in the hunt for a 33-year-old man identified as Sohail A, who German police say murdered his child

Interpol is involved in the hunt for a 33-year-old man identified as Sohail A, who German police say murdered his child

A rejected Pakistani asylum seeker who fled Germany after slashing the throat of his two-year-old daughter has been captured in Spain, police say.

Interpol assisted in the hunt for 33-year-old Sohail A, who police say murdered his child following a violent row with his wife at their home on the north German city of Hamburg last Monday.

UK police had been notified as a matter of urgency as Hamburg detectives thought he might have been making his way to England and might have relatives in the country.

After fleeing from Germany on Monday, there had been no trace of him until Spanish Police captured him in San Sebastián at lunchtime on Sunday.

He is now facing extradition back to Germany.

It comes after, Sohail A was left alone in his apartment with his daughter, Aeyesha, on Monday when her mother, Lubna, went to police to report her husband’ s violence – the third time she had done so.

She returned with officers to find her daughter murdered and no sign of her husband.

Sohail had remained in Germany six years after authorities rejected his asylum application.

Before being caught in Spain, he had last been seen making his way to Hamburg main railway station where express trains link up to a network that could have taken him anywhere on the continent.

The case has reignited the debate about Germany’s apparent lack of will to deport failed asylum seekers.

The young girl, Aeysha, was left alone in the apartment with her father when her mother, Lubna, went to police to report her husband' s violence. Pictured above, officers remove Aeysha's body from the crime scene

The young girl, Aeyesha, was left alone in the apartment with her father on Monday when her mother, Lubna, went to police to report her husband’ s violence. Pictured above, officers remove Aeyesha’s body from the crime scene

Sohail had his application for refugee status rejected in 2012 but prolonged his stay in Germany by losing his documents, moving around the country and fighting deportation in the courts Police investigate the crime scene in Hamburg, Germany

UK police have been notified as a matter of urgency as Hamburg detectives believe he may have relatives in the country. Pictured above, police investigate the crime scene

Thousands have been told they cannot stay but remain in the country using a variety of legal manouvres, including illness and false threats of violence awaiting them back in their homelands.

After the murder, it emerged that the victim’s family were on the radar of the authorities.

A spokesman for the local youth authority said: ‘The department had multiple contacts with the family. The security of the children was the main topic.’

Sohail A came from Pakistan into Germany on December 21, 2011, and applied for asylum.

But just a month later the application was rejected because the grounds for it were deemed ‘not believable’.

On July 11, 2012, the judicial authorities deemed the decision legal in law, paving the way for deportation. It never happened.

Police spent a week searching for Solhail A, after he disappeared following the gruesome killing

Police have spent the last week searching for Solhail A, after he disappeared on Monday night

Before his arrest, Solhail was last seen making his way to Hamburg main railway station

Solhail was last seen making his way to Hamburg main railway station where express trains link up to a network that could have taken him anywhere on the continent

‘Just why he was allowed to remain in Germany is not clear,’ said the daily newspaper Bild in a report about the murder and aftermath.

It was while awaiting deportation that he came to know Lubna, married her and fathered Aeyesha with her.

In April this year he launched an emergency action at Hamburg’s Administrative Court to be allowed to stay on in the country.

According to media reports, the judge in the case was informed by police of violence against his wife, leading him to get the Youth Authorities involved instead of ordering his expulsion.

Bild reported that social workers reported back to the court that they did not foresee a ‘worsening’ of the family situation.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5028429/Pakistani-man-Germany-slashed-daughter-s-throat.html#ixzz50JudAL00
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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s young wife didn’t do parda, this is against the parda laws in Rabwah

Intro
I have an interesting story to share. It seems that there was an incident from roughly 1891–1906, wherein the young wife of MGA (Nusrat Jehan Begum) was breaking the “customary” laws of parda in the Indian Sub-continent. Normally, women arent allowed to roam freely in this culture, nor are they allowed to frolic around men and etc. in this case, MGA’s young wife was living in close quarters with both Noorudin and Maulvi Abdul Karim. In this story, they seem to have objected to MGA’s wife walking around the train station and seemingly without proper parda.

By 2021, in the west, the Ahmadiyya Movement has been trying to force girls/women to sign a pardah form, like a contract. After signing this, they are enforcing pardah, nevertheless, ahmadi girls are rebelling at an alarming rate.
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Mirza Nasir Ahmad’s first marriage—1934

Intro
This entry is about the first wife of Mirza Nasir Ahmad.  Which he married in 1934.  Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmood Ahmad, the second khalifa of Qadiyani jamaat married off his son Mirza Nasir ahmad (who was 25 years old), who eventually became the third khalifa, to Syeda Mansoora Begum daughter of Mubarika Begum and Nawab Muhammad Ali Khan of Malir kotla. The Nikah was held in July 1934 and Barat proceeded to Malir Kotla on 4 August and returned with bride on 6 August 1934 to Qadiyan. Mirza Mehmood sent his son Mirza Nasir to England for higher studies the very next month. Mirza Nasir returned to Qadiyan in 1936 and permanently in 1938. Mansoora Begum died in December 1981. Mirza Nasir remarried to 24 year old Syeda Tahira Siddiqa in April 1982 at an age of 73 years.
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Per Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Islam doesnt mean peace

Intro
You will see Ahmadis and some very liberal Sunni’s/Shias running around the internet and claiming that Islam means Peace.  That is an absolute lie.  A few weeks ago, an Ahmadi asked me to review a book by MGA entitled, “The Philosophy of the Teachings of Islam”.  This was a speech that was written by MGA’s team of writers, and then delivered by MGA’s top orator, Maulvi Abdul Karim.  In this book, MGA wrote that Islam means “surrender to the will of Allah”, and MGA never wrote that Islam means peace in any of his writings.

The Quotes

“””The method of establishing perfect spiritual relationship with God that the Holy Quran teaches us is Islam, meaning devoting one’s whole life to the cause of God and being occupied with the supplications which we have been taught in Surah Fatihah. This is the essence of Islam. Complete surrender to God and the supplication taught in Surah Fatihah are the only
methods of meeting God and drinking the water of true…”””(see page 128, online edition).  

“””By the meeting of these two flames all our passions and our love for anything beside God are
totally consumed and we become dead vis-à-vis our previous life. This condition is named Islam in the Holy Quran. Through our complete surrender to the will of God our passions are killed, and through supplication we acquire new life. This second life is signalised by the
receipt of revelation. Arriving at this stage is interpreted as meeting with God, in other words beholding God. At this stage, a person establishes a relationship with God by virtue of which he becomes as if he were beholding God, and he is invested with power and all his senses and his inner faculties are illumined and he feels the strong pull of a holy life…” (see page 129, online edition).

https://www.alislam.org/library/books/Philosophy-of-Teachings-of-Islam.pdf

My summary of Philosophy of the Teachings of Islam
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/11/25/some-brief-notes-on-the-philosophy-of-the-teachings-of-islam-aka-islami-usool-ki-falasifi-1896/

The “Haq-mehr” aka Dowrie of Dr. Tahira, Mirza Nasir Ahmad’s bride in 1982

Intro
I have came across some interesting data in terms of the 2nd marriage of Mirza Nasir Ahmad, which happened in 1982.
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Did some Deobandi Scholars refuse to call MGA a Kafir??



Intro

Professor Johnathan Brown is getting trolled by many Ahmadis these days. He had publicly posted a statement asking for people to show any Muslim scholar who considered Ahmadis as Muslims.  Well…some people have responded. In 2023, Razi got caught lying about Abdul Majid Dariyabadi and his position on Eisa (as) getting put on the cross or not.

Abdul Majid Dariyabad
The opinion I attribute to Abdul Majid Dariyabadi is from an exchange he had with Ashraf Ali Thanawi on interpreting Mirza Ghulam’s nubuwwah, which is documented in volume 6 of Thanawi’s Fatawa Imdadiyya.

Ubaydullah Sindhi
He considered Hakim Nur al-Din as the most prominent Qur’an mufassir of his time. The extracts are effusive with praise for him. Further, Sindhi considers Ahmedism a sociopolitical movement and refuses to entertain any theological pronouncements against them.

Sindhi and Dariyabadi actively, not passively, abstained and refused to do takfir of Ahmedis at a time when it had become a call for doctrinal mobilization. Dariyabadi’s exchange with Thanvi is over doctrine: he makes a case for using ta’wil to exculpate Ahmedis from denial of khatam un Nubuwwah. Let me share a secondary source recounting that exchange. As for Sindhi, if you look at the recent spate of writings by Deobandi scholars against him, he is repeatedly singled out for refusing to do takfir of Ahmedis. This refusal was not grounded in lack of knowledge or lack of interest. In the entire chapter from Professor Sarwar’s book, he praises Hakim Nur al-Din as a faqih, muhaddith and mufassir (not as a good kafir) and criticizes Ghulam Mirza as a weak intellectual, but not once does he do takfir of the latter. He even points to the futility of the entire Khatm un Nubuwwa movement which is based on doctrinal takfir of Ahmedis. I do take your point that Ahmedism itself was an evolving movement at that time.

Anwar Shah Kashmiri
Allamah anwar shah wrote ikfaar ul mulhideen in which he wrips apart the qadianis.
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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad lied about 3:144, and the word “all” is not there

Intro
In 1888, in Noorudin’s famous book that he wrote on the behest of MGA, “Faslul Khitab”, even Noorudin hadn’t realized that the phrase “Ar-Rusulu” meant ALL and thus also meant that Esa (as) was dead. Thus, no Muslim had ever inferred that ALL was meant in 3:144 in terms of Messengers. Even if it is, it would mean that Esa (as) has to face death eventually, nothing else.

In 1891, MGA argued that 3:144 (3:145 in the Kadiani Koran) verse proves that Esa (As) died. MGA first quoted this verse in Izala Auham (See Izala-e-Auham, RK, vol. 3, pp. 277-278, via Essence of Islam, Vol.3, pages 198-199) and argued that the word ALL (Kul in Arabic) was inferred in this verse and thus, Eisa (as) was dead. MGA was also indirectly claiming that for 50 years of his life, it never dawned on him what this verse (3:144) actually meant, i.e., the death of Esa (as). Technically, MGA had mis-interpreted this verse for 50 years.

In 1893, 2 years later, in “Shahadatul-Quran” (1893)(online english edition from the Lahori-Ahmadi’s) MGA quoted 77:11 of the Quran and argued that “Ar-Rusulu” had a singular connotation and referred to himself (MGA)as the Promised Messiah. Thus contradicting his previous stance that Ar-rusulu meant ALL. Ar-rusulu also occurs in 23:51, as allah does refer to ALL in this verse. 41:14 is another instance, also see 12:110, see also 13:38, 5:70 and 22:75.

In 1893, in MGA’s famous debate with Athim (See “Holy War”, online English edition, pages 12-13). MGA argued that “khallat” didn’t mean death and the word ALL was not in this verse (5:75 and 3:144).

In 2025, Bro Imtiaz demolished a 16-year old Ahmadi named Noor on TikTok. Check out Brother Omar explaining how Ahmadi’s translate of “Al-Rusul” in 3:144 is different from “Al-Rusul” in 5:75 (See the clip on TikTok and Twitter), in fact, Zafrullah Khan gave the same translation in his version of the Quran.

In 2026 (Jun), during the debate with Shaykh Asrar Rashid vs. Maulvi Razi, at the 2:56:06 time stamp, Shaykh Asrar Rashid quoted MGA’s which is referenced in 3 places. The context of this conversation is 3:144 of the Quran (3:145 in the Kadiani Koran). Shaykh Asrar Rashid was showing a contradiction, on the one hand, MGA alleged that via 3:144 of the Quran (3:145 in the Kadiani Koran) ALL the messengers are dead, however, MGA himself argued that Musa (as) was alive. At 3:00:21, Maulvi Razi accused Shaikh Asrar Rashid of lying about the above quote,  Maulvi Razi responded at 3:01:00 and referred to MGA as a “certain person”. Maulvi Razi counter-argued that MGA was referring to Musa (as) being alive in the Barzakh (3:01:15 time stamp).

A similar verse and line of argumentation is found in 5:75 (5:76 in the Qadiani Quran numbering system). This argument became a major theme and marketing point for Ahmadis. They also refer to a hadith which references this verse (See Sahih Bukhari). Furthermore, this verse also proves that prophets can be killed, this was common, in fact, it appears 10 times in the quran.

The famous Sheikh Assim Al hakeem proves that 5:75 and 3:144 doesn’t mean that Eisa (as) is dead. Further, #Ahmadis oppose 3:144 of the Quran and thus don’t believe that prophets have been killed. Check out Al-Tabari on 5:75 and 3:144. Lisan Al-Arab also tells us that the main meanings of Qad Khallat is to leave a place. Also, 3:45 of the Quran proves that “ALL” the angels didn’t visit Maryam, and thus Ahmadiyya on 3:144 debunked.

Continue reading “Mirza Ghulam Ahmad lied about 3:144, and the word “all” is not there” →

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad vs. Batalvi–1891-1892 era, MGA sent 10 Lanats on Batalvi

Intro
After claiming to be the Messiah in 1891, Batalvi turned on MGA and his team of ghost writers.  Batalvi began his beef with MGA which lasted til MGA died. MGA even made predictions that Batalvi would eventually join Ahmadiyya and etc, however, like all of MGA’s predictions, those also failed.

This death prophecy situation erupted again in 1898-1899, Batalvi claims that MGA broke the law and conducted a prophecy vs. himself. Even though MGA is guilty, the British government absolves MGA. MGA issues another prophecy against Batalvi, MGA claims that Batalvi will be disgraced by Feb 1900. This prophecy also fails.
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