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May 2018

An ahmadi, Amir Aziz and Eric Lounsbery debate, Ahmadiyya vs. Christianity

Intro
This is an interesting debate.

The video

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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad accused Maryam of meeting with Joseph before her marriage with him

Intro
MGA insulted many holy people in Islam, Christianity and Judaism, he even stole “hindu -styled-arguments” and passed them off as his own.  We thought we had covered it thoroughly, however, everyday we find new data.  Recently, we found a reference from MGA’s book “Ayyamus-Sulah”, in english as “The Age of Peace”, it was published in 1898, in Urdu (see Hidden treasures, page 239).  This book dealt mostly with the issues of the plague, which was running rampant in India in those days, however, MGA also insulted Maryam, the mother of Esa (as).
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The context of this specific quote
MGA is expressing his hate against Pashtuns, Afghans, Israelites, and Mary the mother of Jesus Christ, may peace and blessings of Allah be upon her. He says pushtunes and afghans are from the lineage of Bani Israel so they don’t mind extra marital relationship just like the tribes of Bani Israel. He alleges that sometimes their women get pregnant and give birth to children out of these illicit relationships, then he gives the example of Maryam a.s. that she was found accompanying her fiancée Yusuf Najjar before getting married to him.  NAUZUBILLAH. He also made mockery of the faces and features of Bani Israel tribes and their dresses.

The original scan and translation from roohani khazyian 14 -page 300 (ayam alsulah)

Some quotes from Ayyamus-Sulah
1—-“””It is through the prayer that one should seek the path of tadbir. Therefore, the Prayer and tadbir are two facets of the human endeavour and intellect. It is therefore necessary that man should seek the path of tadbir through prayer.””” (Ayyamus-Sulah, p. 3, Ruhani
Khaza’in vol. 14, p. 231)

2—-“””…I saw in a dream that God’s angels were planting black trees in different parts of the Punjab. Those trees were very ugly, black in colour, terrifying and of small size. I asked some of those who were planting them: What kind of trees are these? They answered: These are trees of the plague which is about to spread in the country. It remained unclear to me whether it was said that the plague would spread during the coming winter or the winter after, but it was a terrible sight which I saw.””” (Ayyamus-Sulah, p. 121, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 4, p. 361)

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Links and Related Essays
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/10/06/anjam-e-athim-1897-quotes/

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Mirza Bashir Ahmad vs. Muhammad Ali (1940-41) on the topic of Funeral prayers for non-Ahmadi Muslims

Intro
The Lahori-Ahmadi’s had a long running rivalry with their Qadiani-Ahmadi’s.  You can read lots of it on the internet.  However, today, we bring you an incident from 1940-1941 wherein the topic of funeral prayers for non-Ahmadi’s-Muslims was discussed between the 2 factions.

1941
Muhammad Ali writes, Qadianio ko Saalis Bun-nay kee Daawut”.  Muhammad Ali challenged any Qadiani-Ahmadi on this issue addressed to Qadiani Jamaat members. He asked if any single one of them could testify that:

“””‘In the time of the Promised Messiah and the time of Hazrat Maulana Nur-ud-Din, that is before 1914, saying funeral prayers for non-Ahmadis was considered to be prohibited as it is now, and no Ahmadi community ever held the funeral prayers of a non-Ahmadi.’”””

Mirza Bashir Ahmad responded

A few months later in 1941, Mirza Bashir Ahmad wrote a book in reply which was more than 200 pages long, entitled Mas`ala Janaza ki Haqiqat. The standpoint in this book was that when the Promised Messiah wrote that janaza prayers of non-Ahmadis were allowed, he put such conditions on it that such a non-Ahmadi would in effect have to be an Ahmadi!

Mirza Bashir Ahmad wrote about these conciliatory statements of the Promised Messiah that:

“The Promised Messiah gave people a bitter pill to swallow which he coated with sugar, but Hazrat Khalifat-ul-Masih 2 has given them the pill directly without sugar coating.”

Links and Related Essays
http://www.aaiil.org/urdu/books/muhammadali/saalis/saalis.shtml

Mujib-ur-Rahman’s statement on MTA about janaza prayers

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/08/25/who-is-mirza-bashir-ahmad-the-younger-brother-of-mirza-basheer-uddin-mahmud-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/11/21/in-1914-mirza-bashir-ahmad-simply-called-mga-a-mujadid-not-a-prophet/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/17/seeratul-mahdis-1st-edition-is-missing-it-was-published-on-dec-10th-1923/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/10/01/mirza-bashir-ahmad-a-son-of-mga-wrote-in-1920-that-aisha-was-7-years-old-when-she-married-muhammad-saw/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/13/mirza-bashir-ahmad-did-takfir-on-all-muslims-and-lahori-ahmadis-1916/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/10/01/kalimatal-fasl-by-mirza-bashir-ahmad-1916/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/06/27/do-ahmadis-believe-in-the-same-kalima-as-muslims/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/11/14/ahmadis-are-hypothetically-allowed-to-kill-other-ahmadis/

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“Ahmadiyya, beliefs and experiences” (2000) by Hassan Bin Mahmood Odeh–An Ex-Ahmadi from Kababir, Haifa, Israel

Intro
We have written extensively about Ahmadiyya in Kababir, Haifa, Israel. We wanted to add one more piece research information to our blog. We have found and posted a book by Hassan Bin Mahmood Odeh, who is an ex-Ahmadi from Kababir, Haifa, Israel. He is from the famous Odeh family. Under Mirza Tahir Ahmad, he worked as the “Director-General” of the Arabic section of the Ahmadiyya Movement. He had also lived in Qadian and had learned Urdu and thus was able to read directly from the books of MGA.

The PDF
Hassan Odeh Book

Mirza Tahir Ahmad badmouthing Hassan Odeh in a Friday Sermon

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The Review of Religions (ROR) of November 1931, Front page and pages 290-291

 

Intro
As we continue our work on Ahmadiyya in Kababir, we have collected an article from November of 1931 which gives us additional evidence.  It seems that Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad had sent Jalal-ud-din Shams in roughly 1925 and had him return in 1931.  The Khalifa replaced him with another Ahmadi-Mullah, Maulvi Abul-Ata Allah Ditta, who was a new graduate of the Mullah-training-school in Qadian.

Summary
This report has lots of info on Islam in Palestine, Egypt and Syria, which were all property of the British Government.  It also tells us that before Jalal-uddin Shams, there was another Ahmadi-Mullah sent to Damascus.  His name was Syed Zainul-Abideen Wali-ullah Shah.  This person has never been mentioned before in the annals of Ahmadiyya literature.  Moreover, the British government forced Jalal-uddin Shams to leave the Damascus area and they seem to have directed him towards Kababir, wherein there was a family of Muslims living in a village.  Finally, a report of the operations of Ahmadiyya in Bengal is also given.

The PDF
The Review of Religions (ROR) of November 1931, Front page and pages 290-291

Links and Related Essays
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/05/10/kababir-an-ahmadiyya-community-in-israel-by-ray-register-1970-hartford-seminary-foundation-thesis-dissertation/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/05/16/the-review-of-religions-ror-of-november-1931-front-page-and-pages-290-291/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/05/17/ahmadiyya-beliefs-and-experiences-by-hassan-bin-mahmood-odeh-an-ex-ahmadi-from-kababir-haifa-israel/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/03/12/ahmadiyya-officially-claimed-that-the-state-of-israel-is-temporary/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/05/17/ahmadiyya-beliefs-and-experiences-by-hassan-bin-mahmood-odeh-an-ex-ahmadi-from-kababir-haifa-israel/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/10/28/ahmadis-in-the-israeli-military/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/05/24/ahmadi-mission-in-israel-as-written-in-the-pakistan-times-on-june-18th-1974/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/05/16/the-review-of-religions-ror-of-january-1932-pages-30-34images/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/06/06/in-1924-the-ahmadiyya-khalifa-traveled-from-india-to-england-and-stopped-in-egypt-damascus-and-why/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmadiyya_in_Syria

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/05/09/review-of-religions-august-of-1932-factors-which-contribute-to-the-success-of-a-new-religion-and-their-application-to-the-ahmadiyya-movement/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/09/11/an-ahmadiyya-album-from-the-1920s-which-proves-that-ahmadiyya-was-supported-and-appreciated-by-the-british/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/08/23/hani-tahir-has-written-a-new-document-available-in-english-as-he-exposes-the-internal-working-of-ahmadiyya/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/10/06/anjam-e-athim-1897-quotes/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/23/mga-invented-the-23-year-theory-for-prophets-and-his-opinion-on-6944/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/10/13/who-is-jalal-ud-din-shams-1901-1966/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/10/09/who-is-maulvi-sayyid-zayn-alabidin-waliullah-shah/

Tags
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The Review of Religions (ROR) of January 1932, pages 30-34+images

Intro
My team and I continue to collect archival material on the Ahmadiyya Movement.  In this instance, we have found the ROR of 1932 and some specific pages.  This article in the ROR specifically tells us about Ahmadiyya operations in Syria, Egypt and Damascus. Ray Register wrote an extensive thesis in 1970 also. There is another ROR essay of 1931 which also tells us about Ahmadiyya in Syria and Palestine in this era.

Jalal-uddin Shams mentions hows Jews are taking over Palestine
Firstly, the British Government was administering these lands and was allowing Jews to move in and buy land.  The same British Government had helped Ahmadi’s in Israel and most likely led them to Kababir.

Cement of Superior quality?  From Kababir? 
Jalal-uddin Shams mentions how there was a huge family business in Kababir in cement work.  This seems to have been a multi-million dollar enterprise (by today’s standards).  Register mentions this fact also, it seems that the family that owned this business was totally converted to Ahmadiyya before Shams left.  However, Shams tells us that some Jewish people had bought and taken over this business.  We are not sure of the implications of this quite yet.

The PDF
The Review of Religions (ROR) of January 1932, pages 30-34+imag

Links and Related Essays
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/05/10/kababir-an-ahmadiyya-community-in-israel-by-ray-register-1970-hartford-seminary-foundation-thesis-dissertation/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/05/16/the-review-of-religions-ror-of-november-1931-front-page-and-pages-290-291/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/05/17/ahmadiyya-beliefs-and-experiences-by-hassan-bin-mahmood-odeh-an-ex-ahmadi-from-kababir-haifa-israel/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/03/12/ahmadiyya-officially-claimed-that-the-state-of-israel-is-temporary/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/05/17/ahmadiyya-beliefs-and-experiences-by-hassan-bin-mahmood-odeh-an-ex-ahmadi-from-kababir-haifa-israel/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/10/28/ahmadis-in-the-israeli-military/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/05/24/ahmadi-mission-in-israel-as-written-in-the-pakistan-times-on-june-18th-1974/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/05/16/the-review-of-religions-ror-of-january-1932-pages-30-34images/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/06/06/in-1924-the-ahmadiyya-khalifa-traveled-from-india-to-england-and-stopped-in-egypt-damascus-and-why/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmadiyya_in_Syria

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/05/09/review-of-religions-august-of-1932-factors-which-contribute-to-the-success-of-a-new-religion-and-their-application-to-the-ahmadiyya-movement/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/09/11/an-ahmadiyya-album-from-the-1920s-which-proves-that-ahmadiyya-was-supported-and-appreciated-by-the-british/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/08/23/hani-tahir-has-written-a-new-document-available-in-english-as-he-exposes-the-internal-working-of-ahmadiyya/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/10/06/anjam-e-athim-1897-quotes/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/23/mga-invented-the-23-year-theory-for-prophets-and-his-opinion-on-6944/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/10/13/who-is-jalal-ud-din-shams-1901-1966/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/10/09/who-is-maulvi-sayyid-zayn-alabidin-waliullah-shah/

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Who is Afzal Upal, the Ex-Ahmadi?

Intro
We love Afzal Upal, and all Ex-Ahmadi’s and all Ex-Muslim’s.  We believe that everyone is free to pick their own religion.  Enjoy the video.

The video

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Mirza Sultan Muhammad from Patti, District Lahore, married Muhammadi Begum (MGA’s niece/daughter), not MGA

Intro
Dear readers, to full understand who Mirza Sultan Muhammad from Patti is, you have to do lots of reading, this is by no means an easy subject to learn. Nonetheless, start here. Mirza Sultan Muhammad married MGA’s daughter/niece and MGA also predicted his death within a few years, which never happened. Ahmadi mullahs went to the extreme of making up fake stories that Mirza Sultan Muhammad repented or apologized, or in some way was neutral in this whole matter. However, that is a total lie. Firstly, Mirza Sultan Muhammad served in the British military and even fought during WW-1 (1914–1918). He was shot and survived and became a hero of sorts.  In the below we sill present lots of info….pay attention. Continue reading “Mirza Sultan Muhammad from Patti, District Lahore, married Muhammadi Begum (MGA’s niece/daughter), not MGA”

Dr. Abdus Salam’s grand-daughter and Malala Yousafzai–at the screening of the new movie on Dr. Salam

 

Intro
Our team of writers here on this blog have written extensively on the truth about Dr. Salam, he turned on his fellow Pakistani’s and gave all of his work to European nations, and he did this per the instructions of the Ahmadiyya movement.  Further, its most likely that Dr. Salam was a closet-atheist who remained loyal to Ahmadiyya simply out of respect for his parents.  Moreover, he never wrote in support of any Ahmadi arguments.  He never wrote about Jesus in India, the eclipses or any other scientific phenomenon that Ahmadiyya claims.

NOTE: these photos were publically tweeted and posted on Facebook, they can be found by a simply google search:  https://m.facebook.com/page.boldo/photos/a.560406134098350.1073741829.559568310848799/1065970190208606/?type=3&notif_id=1526133314130471&notif_t=notify_me_page&ref=notif

Some scientists are crazy and won’t listen
In America, we had Jack Parsons, who was a crazy scientist with weird beliefs, just like Abdus Salam.  He was also shunned.  http://www.spacesafetymagazine.com/aerospace-engineering/rocketry/jack-parsons-occult-roots-jpl/

Abdus Salam is like Snowden, to Pakistani’s
This is the proper equivalent.  Snowden was a traitor.  Also similar is how German’s came to the USA after WW-2 and helped the USA with their rocket program.

Related essays
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/26/dr-abdus-salaam-liked-white-women-alcohol-and-a-british-lifestyle/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/05/03/na-of-pakistan-passes-resolution-to-rename-qaus-abdus-salam-centre-to-al-khazini-department/

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