Intro
4:69 of the Quran only means that Allah will allow Muslims to be in the company of prophets in the Jannah, not on Earth (ardh)(see Suyuti and Ibn Kathir, see the story of Asbab e Nuzul). As early as 1892, MGA was using 4:69 to argue that Allah still talks and that this was in terms of Muhaddas, or metaphorical prophethood (See the refs in the below). The 3rd reference is from Tiryaq-ul-Qulub (which was published in 1902, written in 1899), again, for the 3rd time, MGA used 4:69 to argue against prophethood, and for Muhaddasiyyat (Muslims becoming the like of prophets, per hadith). I had written in a previous essay that MGA never wrote about 4:69 after Nov 1901, however, the AMJ has recently published “Kishti-nuh” aka Noahs Ark (1902)(see page 44) into English for the first time ever and a new reference has been found. Nevertheless, in both of these books, MGA claims that 4:69 asserts that Muslims can become LIKE-PROPHETS, not full prophets. After MGA died, the Qadiani newspaper again asserted that 4:69 meant that Allah can make anyone a prophet. Ahmadis also use 7:35 to argue that prophethood will never end. They also claim that MGA was mentioned in 48:29 of the Quran. They also use 2:4, as they argue that prophethood will not end. All of these arguments were developed in 1915 by the 2nd Khalifa, Mirza Basheer ud Din Mahmud Ahmad, he defined MGA’s prophethood thoroughly in 1915 (see Haqiqatun Nubuwwat). We have also recently found MGA (and his team of writers) arguing in 1906, via MGA’s book, “Chashma-Masihi”, that in a famous verse of Surah Fatiha wherein Muslims pray to Allah to be guided,they are actually asking Allah to be guided like the prophets and siddiqin (which is a direct inference to 4:69)(See pages 62-65). Thus, MGA would always connect the ability to achieve prophethood with the daily prayer, which is ridiculous, since prophethood is a gift, not something achieved (see 40:15)(See Muhammad Ali, Prophethood in Islam also). However, in Chashma Masihi, MGA doesn’t quote 4:69, nor have we found this quote in any other book after 1903.
In Aug-1984, after Mirza Tahir Ahmad moved to the UK on asylum, he held a pseudo question and answer session wherein he said that 4:69 only meant that Muslims could be like prophets.
On the same day, Mirza Tahir Ahmad argued that NO ONE says that NO prophet can come, and a prophet in the fashion of Muhammad (Saw) can also come.
In the late 1980’s, Mirza Tahir Ahmad quoted 4:69 (4:70 in the Kadiani Koran) and alleged that subordinate prophets can come. At 2:22, he quotes the famous hadith about Muslims being “the like of prophets”. Mirza Tahir Ahmad says that Muslims are not less than any prophets of Israel (naozobillah) and can reach that status. However, they won’t be called prophets. Mirza Tahir Ahmad says that the prophets of Israel were not for the whole world, they were limited in their approach. Mirza Tahir Ahmad says that “the like of prophets” can come in large numbers and they are not prophets at all. Mirza Tahir Ahmad says that a prophet “Like Muhammad (saw)” isn’t covered in 4:69 (4:70 in the Kadiani Koran), since this is a prophet for the entire world. Mirza Tahir Ahmad says that only prophet will come who is “Like Muhammad (saw)” and that is MGA. Mirza Tahir Ahmad then quotes the famous hadith from Sahih-Muslim Hadith 2937a, The Book of Tribulations and Portents of the Last Hour wherein Eisa (as) was called “Nabi-Ullah” 4 times.
It seems that on 3-12-1996, Mirza Tahir Ahmad had some type of discussion with an Arab-Egyptian on the famous Ahmadiyya program, “Liqaa Ma’al Arab”. The famous translator from the Odeh family is also in this video. Nevertheless, Mirza Tahir Ahmad used 4:69 to allege that anyone can become a prophet, which contradicts his utterances from 1984.
In June of 2025, 4:69 was brought up on the True Islam Uk Urdu stream vs. Bro Imtiaz. –At 1:50:50, Hadi Ali Chaudhary starts speaking and accuses Bro Imtiaz of not answering the question. Hadi Ali Chaudhary acknowledges that Bro Imtiaz said that Eisa (as) was already a prophet and thus doesn’t need to be made a prophet again. Hadi Ali Chaudhary accidentally said that the person who comes at the end (akhr), he will be the last (akhree). Hadi Ali Chaudhary says in terms of the statement by Bro Imtiaz that the Ahmadiyya movement has created a 3rd category of prophets, is a lie! Hadi Ali Chaudhary says since in the Quran it says that now only the prophethood of Muhammad (saw) will continue. Hadi Ali Chaudhary then argues via 4:69 (4:70 in the Kadiani Koran), Muslims are promised 4 levels, of which being a Nabi is one. Hadi Ali Chaudhary then quotes Ibn Arabi and says that the person to come (the messiah) is not the one who has died. A different person (a different Messiah) would come (this is a total lie). Hadi Ali Chaudhary then says that Muslims have always believed that Eisa (as) who had died will not be coming back. He said forget about Eisa (as), he is dead and never coming back. Hadi Ali Chaudhary again argues that Muhammad (Saw) said that some of the sahaba will see Eisa (as), and this meant that MGA’s friends are the sahaba in question. Hadi Ali Chaudhary says that the Quran said that Eisa (as) died, the sahaba had ijma on this too, Muhammad (Saw) said that Eisa (as) also died. This hadith is metaphoric. Hadi Ali Chaudhary says that if Eisa (as) returns physically, Muslims will have to remove many verses of the Quran.
—At 2:27:50, Hadi Ali Chaudhary begins to speak. Hadi Ali Chaudhary accidentally confesses that Muhammad (Saw) said that at the end will come the Messiah, Eisa (as) ibn Maryam. Hadi Ali Chaudhary says that being LAST doesn’t mean anything, it doesn’t mean the best or something. In other words, there is no value in being last. Hadi Ali Chaudhary says that Muslims believe that Muhammad (saw) is the best because he was the LAST. There is no value in any of this. Hadi Ali Chaudhary emphatically argues that there is NO benefit in being LAST. Hadi Ali Chaudhary alleges that Qasim Nanotvi said the same. Hadi Ali Chaudhary alleges that other ulema have also said this. Hadi Ali Chaudhary mentioned 4:69 (4:70 in the Kadiani Koran). Hadi Ali Chaudhary argues that being LAST in time means nothing. Hadi Ali Chaudhary then accuses Muslims of borrowing Eisa (as) for Islam (naozobillah).
—At 2:49:16, Hadi Ali Chaudhary begins speaking and alleges that Bro Imtiaz is now speaking emotionally. Hadi Ali Chaudhary says that MGA never said that being the LAST is Fazeelat (worthy of merit). Hadi Ali Chaudhary says that it was Muhammad (Saw) who said the Messiah would be the Akhr (Last). This is the prophecy by Muhammad (Saw). Hadi Ali Chaudhary said that the dead Messiah of Islam who would become alive again, would be the akhr (last). Hadi Ali Chaudhary emphatically says that Muhammad (saw) said that the Messiah would come in the end (akhr). Hadi Ali Chaudhary argues that the Quran has kept prophethood open forever (via 7:35). Hadi Ali Chaudhary mentions some verses of the Quran without giving a proper reference. He says it’s up to Allah to send them or not. Hadi Ali Chaudhary says that the Ahmadiyya jamaat doesn’t close to the door to prophethood after MGA at all. There was a prophecy about one, and that one has come. Hadi Ali Chaudhary says that if someone comes after MGA, they will have to make their arguments. Hadi Ali Chaudhary specifically quoted 7:35 (7:36 in the Kadiani Koran) and says prophets can come. He then quotes “minan nabiyeen”, which seems to be from 4:69 (4:70 in the Kadiani Koran). Hadi Ali Chaudhary then started crying about persecution. He said the lands of Ahmadi’s keep growing and the lands of Muslims are decreasing.
In Aug-2025, Ansar Raza says, per 4:69 of the Quran, anyone can be a prophet.
In Sep-2025, Ansar Raza debated a Shia person, #ShamsuddinShigri seems to be hosting this debate. In his opening statement, Ansar Raza used 1:6, 4:69 and 7:35 as his main arguments that prophethood has not end and never ends. At 19:03, Ansar Raza added 3:81 (3:82 in the Kadiani Koran) and alleged that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is inferred herein as that “Musadaq-Rasul” (See the clip on Tiktok and Twitter). Again, Ansar Raza says that per 3:81 (3:82 in the Kadiani Koran), a Rasul will come who will authenticate (tasdiq) the Kitab and Rasul which was given to a previous Nabi (Ansar Raza was indirectly referring to MGA). At 21:41, Ansar Raza says it is lazmi (mandatory) that a “Musadaq-Rasul” was to appear after Muhammad (Saw) and it is lazmi (mandatory) for Muslims to accept him (see my article on Ahmadiyya Takfir). In conclusion, Ansar Raza argued that 3:81 (3:82 in the Kadiani Koran) includes Eisa (as) and Mirza Ghulam Ahmad only as the “Musadaq-Rasuls”. However, in reality, Muslims believe that only Muhammad (Saw) is the “Musadaq-Rasul” as mentioned in 3:81 (3:82 in the Kadiani Koran). This is why Muhammad (saw) led the Prophets in prayer during the night of Isra’ when they gathered in Bayt Al-Maqdis (Jerusalem)(See Ibn Kathir).
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